Posted on 01/06/2023 1:17:29 AM PST by libh8er
Just being practical for example. IQ doesn't measure it and it isn't particularly related to emotional intelligence and in fact a person of high practical intelligence may be quite low in terms of his or her emotional intelligence or EQ.
For example, there are many very good CPA's who have pretty good IQ's but are off the charts in terms of their peculiar kind of practical intelligence. Yet no one is ever going to rate a CPA as high on an EQ test.;-) I say this as someone who started his career as a CPA (though I was a finance major, not accounting).
As an aside, some CPA's are very, very smart. The former CEO of Coke was an Ernst & Ernst CPA before joining Coke. Very smart guy all around.
My 9th Grade education has garnered me a $150k+ a year job...
I sometimes wonder what a College Degree would have netted me...
I know a Marshall Scholar with an extremely high IQ, who is so liberal she can’t think objectively…
Nice young lady, but her high iq has little impact on critical thinking.
Since every HR dept is infested with activists change is impossible.
Myself and two friends had consulting software development jobs a few years ago, to a company where everyone had advanced degrees. We did not, and were hired to bring a blue-sky software idea to reality.
The president of the company asked our manager why we were being paid $60/hr (a lot in 1988) when we didn’t even have PhDs. The manager said it was BECAUSE we didn’t have PhDs that we were paid so much.
However, in this article, if you read it, it is about a way to bring in more black people by eliminating degree requirements. In other words the reason is wokeness, not talent.
Myself and two friends had consulting software development jobs a few years ago, to a company where everyone had advanced degrees. We did not, and were hired to bring a blue-sky software idea to reality.
The president of the company asked our manager why we were being paid $60/hr (a lot in 1988) when we didn’t even have PhDs. The manager said it was BECAUSE we didn’t have PhDs that we were paid so much.
THIS is what should happen in politics.
I ran an IT shop for several years.
Every candidate claimed to have a fantastic skill set. A written test proved 85% were dangerously incompetent.
I don’t know about employers as much, but the ‘skills’ that will be needed in the US, as the US Dollar no longer rules the world (thanks to our idiotic ‘sanctions’ on Russia), will be much more in the vocational area, rather than the paper-pushing area that dominates our economy now. In other words, survival skills.
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibits employment tests (when used as a decisive factor in employment decisions) that are not a "reasonable measure of job performance," regardless of the absence of actual intent to discriminate. Since the aptitude tests involved, and the high school diploma requirement, were broad-based and not directly related to the jobs performed, Duke Power's employee transfer procedure was found by the Court to be in violation of the Act.
There’s still too many employers that require a bachelor’s degree as a prerequisite for a position.
It’s not that the degree is required for the position, it is just used to pare down the number of applications.
i think iq test is also a great measure of success in jobs where you will do most of your learning on the job. That wouldn’t include doctor or lawyer. I am thinking of financial trading type of jobs, for example. Abstract reasoning is critical.
Kudos to you
My dad (BS in Ceramic Engineering) ran an engineering department for PPG. He always told me his best engineer never went to college.
Enterprise Rent a Car has ads during NCAA football boasting that they hire more college graduates than anyone else. For what, assistant manager? That job used to filled by the high school kid who washed and vacuumed the cars, then worked the counter on weekends, then worked the counter during the week, then became the assistant manager.
When I was accounting manager my best employee was a jr accountant who worked his way up from clerk. I was never allowed to promote him because he had no college degree. But all the college grads we did hire as full accountants were trained by him, and then they ended up promoted over him
Exactly. I have a masters degree in IT project management. BFD. The requirement on most if not all job search are professional certifications in the profession.
College is the biggest waste of money and biggest scam going on right now.
Perfect I’ll go one step further. High school is the biggest waste of time ever. People need to be trained in skills for which they show interest Or are naturally best suited. not something out of a freaking textbook.
In the programming world, we look for people who can self-teach. I learned 2 languages in school but only used 1 but I have used 15 languages in my career. There is nothing more useless than a coder who won’t learn. H1B’s have lots of schooling and experience that cannot be verified but they will often refuse to learn anything that won’t help their career track.
I have worked with people who would not learn things on their own. If the company did not pay for formal training, they wouldn’t attempt it.
Probably 5% of jobs “require” degrees. When high schools stopped educating students to high school level, the generic college degree was substituted as a requirement to weed out the unteachable - but it means far less than it used to in the new Woke World.
Hiring smart high school graduates and training them from the ground up in the company’s processes and procedures still seems like the smarter move, in most cases. You have to get them before some college teaches them they are priceless. :)
They read others and situations well and respond in a measured effective way.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.