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To: TexasFreeper2009

Trump also won a lot of Democrats the first time around. The NY Times published a list and a map of either congressional districts, or counties (wish I had saved it) that voted for Obama twice and then Trump.

All of them were between the Appalachians and the Rockies. Most of them were around the Great Lakes.

Most people here thought the messaging that won those districts - bringing back the jobs and closing the border - were secondary to their own ideas of greatness. But the Obama voters who actually elected Trump believed him - some of them still do - but not enough.

To do what Trump promised those people would require a chief executive able and willing to wield more power than FDR, and we have never had a weaker President in my lifetime, weaker in the sense of unable to form an effective government, even to the point of surrounding himself with snakes who laughed at him behind his back, published anonymous articles in opposition media attacking him, and eventually openly defied his orders in public.

He’s never getting those voters back. They may be unsophisticated but they aren’t stupid. Certainly not stupid enough to make “Dr. Oz” or Herschel Walker a Senator.


11 posted on 12/08/2022 5:00:12 AM PST by Jim Noble (I feel my heart beat faster any place in the neighborhood of the Astor)
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To: Jim Noble
They may be unsophisticated but they aren’t stupid. Certainly not stupid enough to make “Dr. Oz” or Herschel Walker a Senator.

So you prefer the 'hulk' and warnock to Dr. Oz and Herschel...OK, you win, but you are not stupid!

I expected more from you, you are usually logical and a noble man of honor, but now...

14 posted on 12/08/2022 5:18:47 AM PST by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: Jim Noble

I disagree, I think Trump has actually kept all those voters you mentioned but has lost the RINO types which used to run the GOP, and in some ways still do. (think Cheney)

The irony is, they gained power by depending on conservatives to vote for them, but wont return the favor.


21 posted on 12/08/2022 5:31:56 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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