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1 posted on 12/07/2022 7:54:47 PM PST by Jonty30
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90 posted on 12/07/2022 10:43:45 PM PST by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. Never be a peaceful slave in a new Socialist America.)
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>>> but if the Messiah is not coming for hundreds of years, we will say...

If the messiah is not coming for hundreds of years, then how old will the fig tree generation be then???

Will they have passed away?

Would that make Jesus words about that generation a lie?

As we speak, the generation which saw Israel reborn and come “back to life” is approximately 77 years old.

I seriously doubt we will be waiting much longer... look around... prophecy is unfolding right before our eyes.

I’m kind of surprised we are still here.


92 posted on 12/07/2022 11:18:08 PM PST by Safrguns
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America is alive and well... in the red states

the blue states are the cancer.

when the time comes, it’ll be dealt with and the country will be whole again


96 posted on 12/07/2022 11:31:04 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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FRiend, I also believe we need to have on hand real paper Bibles. Our electronic Bibles on our phones and tablets, however convenient they have been, may be easily wiped out by a Communist country. We will need the Word more than ever for ourselves and those who still are to come into the fold in the days ahead.


97 posted on 12/07/2022 11:31:45 PM PST by AmericanMermaid
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I suggest perhaps we overthrow the socialists in power, en masse, and deal with them in a concrete fashion. Then go avout dealing with the crime problem and the invasion of the country problem decisively.

Consider if the populations of countries like Germany and China and others dealt with their evil tyrant leaders/regimes before it became too late. What if they acted while they could and dealt with them before they were too powerful?


120 posted on 12/08/2022 1:17:33 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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only blood will stop this. it may take 2 or 3 times erasing major media profiles and politicians, but eventually they will learn why their predecessors were slain in the streets.

I think it could be accomplished within a 5 to 15 year window instead of your 100... js...


122 posted on 12/08/2022 1:40:38 AM PST by sit-rep ( )
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Excellent idea!


126 posted on 12/08/2022 1:46:52 AM PST by MachIV
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why not fight back?

stop funding the LEFTIST media

they prop the whole thing up

cut the cable tv


129 posted on 12/08/2022 1:52:57 AM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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People have been betting against the United States of America since at least, 1776 and some pretty big bets too. They have all gone home losers. We are not done by a long chalk. We may need another civil war to straighten things out, but we are by no means done.


131 posted on 12/08/2022 1:57:34 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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It's too early to say that the country has been lost. This is like giving up right after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

We haven't even begun to fight back.

As an aside, socialism hasn't taken over countries as you suggest. What has actually happened is that tyrants have used the ideology of socialism/communism as a means for gaining the reins of power in many countries. It is a tool for establishing a dictatorship or totalitarian government. But once that dictatorship gains power, the use of socialism/communism as a system of government always quickly proves to be clumsy and unworkable.

Socialism/communism is a failed ideology.

It doesn't work because socialism or communism is actually nothing but collectivism.

Let's call collectivism what it is. It is a cult in which all individual identities (even separate groups like families) are wiped out and outlawed in favor of the whole of society. By eliminating individualism, the collective removes all the contributions that we all make when permitted to be individuals. By eliminating individualism, the collective removes all concepts of merit. In the collective, there is no motivation for achievement, success, invention, creation, art, improvement, etc.

In a collective, there is no hope.

Collectivism is nothing but a giant committee and when have any of us seen a committee accomplish anything worthwhile?

Committees cannot create, invent, discover, or even improve. All committees do is control.

Now, all that said, I should insert a giant caveat. Socialism/communism can be sold to a large chunk of any population because its unattractive features can be hidden and its advantages promoted. After all, free stuff sounds appealing. Socialism sounds great when everyone hears only that we all get a big prize for merely participating...and there is no downside.

So keeping in mind that socialism is being used (however deceitfully) as a tool by someone to establish a dictatorship, let's rethink our current situation.

Some army is using a weak but speciously-appealing ideology to establish a totalitarian government in our country. But at this point, we don't even know who that is. So, before we start to fight, we have to clearly identify and define that enemy. We know that our enemy includes all those indoctrinated zombies that are now aligned against us, but we don't know who it is who is pushing this indoctrination. We need to know our enemy's strengths and weaknesses. We need to define the "head of the snake" that needs to be chopped off.

And for ourselves, we need to become a unified force and that requires a leader who best understands the enemy we face.

IMO that leader would be Trump.

143 posted on 12/08/2022 3:04:05 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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Swear allegiance to the flag, whatever flag they offer. Never hint at what you really feel. Teach the children quietly, for someday sons and daughters will rise up and fight while we stood still.


145 posted on 12/08/2022 3:15:36 AM PST by Rastus
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I agree and, as a student of American history, this is a fear of mine.


146 posted on 12/08/2022 3:25:23 AM PST by sauropod (Fascists also buy Comcast cable packages" - Olby - Wanna buy mine?)
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They are not socialist democrats. That’s what they want you to believe. Communism isn’t what the seek.

They are definitely democratic socialists. They don’t want you to understand that. “You will know them by their fruits”. They are clearly Fascists.

You are correct that both seek to alter history, and both destroy records, so that their truth can not be contested.

The socialists have managed to stay in power for decades, while the fascist nations are short lived. Neither more that 200 years. Then, it always goes to monarch/dictator/ and eventually slavery and darkness.


159 posted on 12/08/2022 3:57:51 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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Clearly, the founders tried, but it has failed.

The problem is the absence of God from society. Figure out how to keep God in a society w/o forcing God on people and it might work.

If you don’t believe a loving God is also a God of judgement, you don’t need to follow laws, you can justify cheating, and a society can’t survive without the rule of law. It just can’t.


163 posted on 12/08/2022 4:07:54 AM PST by Baldwin77 (Super, Duper, Ultra Maga, subject of the Ultra Maga King Donald)
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I have a fairly large library. I could store the best books in waterproof containers and bury them on the land, but once the commies take over, they're going to take my land and kill my critters ( I will die on my feet, thank you).

I have no doubt that the fascists will be employing ground radar on the properties of Conservatives and Christians looking for banned items such as Bibles and guns.

Staying home and waiting for the Dr. Zhivago-ing of one's home is not an option.

However, this isn't the 1960's where one could simply toss on a backpack and fade into the back country to disappear either. With satellites and drones and FLIR and a host of other exotic technologies, there is really no place to run. No place to hide. You'd have better luck masking up and heading into the cities and trying to blend in with the homeless. You won't be able to be armed of course, since they can detect any guns you're carrying.

No, the commies will get control, switch up to full fascism, and it will be a nightmare beyond the worst of atrocities of the holocaust.

Set your mind to how it is you want to die. On your feet, fighting against all odds, or meekly boarding that bus (why are there shackles on every seat?) and riding off to the abattoirs.

178 posted on 12/08/2022 4:48:12 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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Since America is probably ending [...]

Has been, since ratification of the 16th Amendment to the Constitution, in 1916.

Ending, ending, ending, ending...

Regards,

201 posted on 12/08/2022 5:57:02 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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“...America falling into socialism”

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America fell into socialism nearly a century ago. However, I think you could have classified much of that type of socialism more as the ‘safety net’ type of stuff. Within the last 50 years we transitioned into the ‘welfare state’ type of socialism, where you have large segments of the population who are dependent of government.

All of that is just a part of the death spiral that is socialism. But what I think is starting to surprise many is not the accellerating creep of socialism, but the increasing signs that our government does not truly operate as the representative form of democracy that we thought it did. To those who were observant, it has been apparent for several decades that the money and the parties control outcomes. That was not good enough. Now it seems that elections cannot be conducted fairly.

I think it’s evident to anyone who studies history knows that fascism is the inevitable evolution of run-away socialism, because eventually you “run out of other people’s money”. I just did not think it would come this quick, or that they would be so clever as to keep the facade and the illusion of normal government in place, rather than having a fascist moment like the Peruvian who so recently tried to dissolve his congress.

You can hide your federalist papers under the matress all day long. As long as the idiotic masses think we are still operating under the constitution even when we aren’t, there’s nothing you can do that wont make you look like a crazed right-winger, which is exactly what they want.


202 posted on 12/08/2022 5:57:25 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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I don't think these two are smart enough to come up with this Marxist takeover but they were definitely a big part of putting it in warp speed after being put in the position to do it. At the very least they brought it out in the open after decades of stealth planning and manipulations by the Uniparty criminals which included Satan's minions such as Soros, Schwab, WEF, Blackrock, the UN, and all the other enemies of freedom and the USA in general. The USA has been, until now, the only country stopping them from their western takeover.

Dirty Obama pledged to "fundamentally transform America".

https://thenewamerican.com/the-fundamental-transformation-of-america/

My hope is when the totalitarian commie thugs start their physical takeover by confiscating our tools of self-protection against enemies foreign and domestic that every patriot takes out 10+ thugs before they go on to Heaven in the afterlife. Maybe then we will end up with no thugs and enough patriots to start again banning all leftists from ever holding office since this story just keeps repeating throughout history and always ends the same way.

One of Trump's greatest accomplishments was exposing the fully corrupt left (which includes rinos). We now have a crystal clear vision of who the enemy within is and the enemy from without who are funding them. There are no good leftists or rinos. Not one single one. I don't even see them as human. More like some kind of parasitic species better left to rot in human waste settling ponds where they fit in perfectly and smell the same.

212 posted on 12/08/2022 7:06:06 AM PST by Boomer (The biden regime / identity politics is a clear and present threat to this constitutional republic.)
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Then the Lord appeared to Solomon at night and said to him, “I have heard your prayer and have chosen this place for Myself as a house of sacrifice.  If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain [drought] , or if I command the locust to devour the land [famine, food shortages, supply chain failures], or if I send pestilence [pandemics, viruses] among My people,  and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:12-14
These things are happening to America today. It's our turn to respond correctly.
230 posted on 12/08/2022 2:41:36 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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Daniel’s 4th empire on the rise.


238 posted on 12/08/2022 7:22:40 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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