[algore]

Someone knows nothing about LOHC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_organic_hydrogen_carriers

[Organic Panic]

There was never “a day” for hydrogen cars.

[vpintheak]

Boy, you could pretty much use the same exact argument for these EV’s, huh?

Demand is low. No one wants them beyond the virtue signalers and those with enough money for a novelty rig.

[crusty old prospector]

Too volatile. Too small of a molecule.

[ten18]

Unfortunately, a lot of people think hydrogen is actually a fuel, when it is merely an energy transfer medium that requires complex and expensive infrastructure on both ends of the process. I spent 30 years in the fleet industry and watched millions of taxpayer dollars get flushed on failed hydrogen transportation projects. It’s really pointless.

[Dr. Sivana]

The article is disingenuous in part because its evidence that the hydrogen car's day is past is in part because only 12 were sold in the U.K.

The U.K.? One fifth the population, one tenth the money, a fraction of the cars as people in London take those double-decker buses and what not.

Toyota and Honda have a foot into Hydrogen cars because governments are mandating higher CAFE standards in the short-term and zero-emission cars in the long term.

So, the infrastructure (for vehicles that don't travel nationwide) can be localized. That works for Japan, an smallish island country. It can also work in the U.S. in regions like California, which has some infrastructure.

So yes, only 12 were sold in the U.K. but over 10,000 in the U.S. and 7,000 in Japan, with 2,500 sold last year. Not bad, considering the high price for a small car ($50K before incentives) and the lack of infrastructure outside of California. 400 mile range, MUCH faster refill time than a plug-in electric. 180 hp/300 lb. torque is decent for a small car. REAR WHEEL DRIVE.

Now, I don't see this going in every home, but I do appreciate that Toyota and Honda are coming up with alternatives to having everyone plug into an over-stressed grid.

There doesn't have to be one answer. The sad thing is that the answer won't come organically from businesses making stretegic fleet decisions and consumers picking EV or Hydrogen as a backup commuter car. The answer is skewed by government throwing incentives, disincentives and mandates hither and yon.

Toyota's business isn't avoiding the emission of CO2 or N2 or whatever it is that eco-nazis want to control. Their business is to make cars that people want to buy and will do the job well with fewer headaches than the competition. Their experts figured out that economics and physics don't allow the future to be all plug-in EV, regardless of mandates. This is one way to hedge bets in such an environment.

[algore]

https://www.ft.com/content/2bcee729-117a-4a31-b9c0-b1957f370cc8?shareType=nongift

Flying cars might work?

[familyop]

Look at what Toyota is doing with hydrogen cars.

The climate change talk is only cover for worries about declining resources with a growing population and billions more people wanting to drive cars. Sounding the alarm about those declining resources would instigate panic and more fighting. Oil will be obtainable in the near future, but it will be much more expensive to extract. Nations are preparing to fight each other much harder for it. Some are already fighting in a high intensity conflict, which struggle might become even more large and intensive.

[ZOOKER]

NASA will attest to how difficult it is to keep hydrogen contained.
If they can ever figure out how to safely transfer and store it, and an efficient way to produce it in bulk, it truly would be the fuel of choice.

[exPBRrat]

The so-called Hydrogen economy was another exercise in academia pipe dreams.