Posted on 11/22/2022 2:38:16 PM PST by nickcarraway
Noah’s Ark is among the best known and most captivating of all Old Testament stories: After creating humans, God became so displeased with them that he struck Earth with an all-encompassing flood to wipe them out—with one noteworthy (and seaworthy) exception: the biblical patriarch and his family, accompanied by pairs of each of the planet’s animals, who rode out the deluge in an enormous wooden vessel.
For people who accept the religious text as a historically accurate account of actual events, the hunt for archaeological evidence of the Ark is equally captivating, inspiring some intrepid faithful to comb the slopes of Armenia’s Mt. Ararat and beyond for traces of the wooden vessel.
In 1876, for example, British attorney and politician James Bryce climbed Mount Ararat, where Biblical accounts say the Ark came to rest, and claimed a piece of wood that “suits all the requirements of the case” was in fact a piece of the vessel. More modern Ark “discoveries” take place on a regular basis, from an optometrist’s report he’d seen it in a rock formation above the mountain in the 1940s to a claim Evangelical pastors had found petrified wood on the peak in the early 2000s.
But searches for the Ark draw everything from exasperation to disdain from academic archaeologists and biblical scholars. “No legitimate archaeologist does this,” says National Geographic Explorer Jodi Magness, an archaeologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, of modern searches for evidence of Noah.
“Archaeology is not treasure hunting,” she adds. “It’s not about finding a specific object. It’s a science where we come up with research questions that we hope to answer by excavation.”
Flood or fiction?
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
There are a few variables, as the article states, but the date is probably very close or spot on. I never thought about the time of day of creation.
Guess again.
Dream on.
Total nonsense.
UNC...Chapel Hill...an Ark wipes out a lot of Phd’s...grad students etc...for all of human history then starts from that moment forwards
——>Moses did not build the Ark. Noah did. Noah lived in a time before the Egyptians.
Moses recorded the first 5 books of the OT, including the events surrounding Noah. It was God who told Moses what to write, inculding the measurements of the ark, AND HE USED CUBITS. Moses recorded it in CUBITS, something he was certainly familiar with, as he had the best education anyone could get, being an adopted son of a princess, IN EGYPT. Moses was born an Israelite and raised in EGYPT as a prince.
300 EGYPTIAN cubits = 157.05 meters, which is EXACTLY the length of the ark, discovered and described in the link I provided.
LENGTH: 300 CUBITS = 157 METRES (515.9 FEET)
BREADTH: 50 CUBITS = 26.2 METRES (85.7 FEET)
HEIGHT: 30 CUBITS = 15.7 METRES (51.6 FEET)
That discovery can be nothing else other than Noah’s ark.
Yup. Genesis is a wonderful book of God revealing himself. Beautiful.
I too think people trying to make it literal, or non-literal, are wasting time. God loves us and that is enough.
I don’t think you understand what I have been saying in my posts. I will not repeat the explanation again.
However, these were real events and people as Jesus and the NT writers understood them to be real.
And I think Jesus should know....He was there at the beginning!
Sure I do. You are asking what unit of measure Noah used to build the ark. You are assuming it was a cubit, BASED ON THE LENGTH OF NOAH’S ARM TO HIS FINGER. Then you ask how anyone could know what the length of a cubit was in Noah’s day, or the length of Noah’s arm. The fact is, we don’t know what form of measurement Noah used. God told Moses to use the term “cubit” in describing the measurements of the Ark. That would be EGYPTIAN cubits, of which we certainly know the length of.
And how did Noah use Egyptian cubits when he predated the Egyptians? Perhaps you are thinking that the Egyptians somehow learned of Noah’s arm length and couldn’t resist adopting a unit of measure from the Jews.
No, I am asking how someone can look at what he presumes to be a shipwreck and say it is exactly 300 cubits long. We really don't know if Noah's cubit and the Egyptian cubit are the same; and, I am betting they are not. This post should be combined with the previous.
Please also note that, according to Wikipedia, the Egyptian cubit rods range from 44.4 to 52.92 cm in length. That is a rather variable constant.
As a final comment, using “approximately” instead of “exactly” would rectify the situation.
On October 24, 1972, my geology class at Occidental College started at 9 AM, PDT, so we held a party to celebrate the creation of the earth. NBC sent a camera crew, and we were on the evening news.
I was seven, but not unaware of consequences.
The actual length of a cubit varied between different ancient groups of people. Here are some samples from Egypt, Babylon, and ancient Israel:
Hebrew 17.5 in
Egyptian 17.6 in
Babylonian Long 19.8 in
Hebrew Long est. 20.4 in
Egyptian Long 20.6 in
Guess which one Moses was referring to?
https://arkencounter.com/noahs-ark/cubit/
Hillary’s e-mails?
On another thread a FReeper asked “How did the penguins and polar bears get to the middle east to board the Ark?”
On another thread a FReeper asked “How did the penguins and polar bears get to the middle east to board the Ark?”
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