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To: ransomnote

This exchange was not about “Sovereign Citizenship”. I have heard Derek Johnson 3-4 times and he did not mention “Sovereign Citizenship” as I recall. The term is an oxymoron, as far as I can determine. Either you are a citizen, or you are a sovereign.

The exchange was about the republic vs the incorporated entity it may have become. And whether we are going back to the republic. I asked for sauce.

“Sovereign Citizenship” could be part of a republic/incorporated entity, but it is not the same thing. Not sure why you have chosen to focus on this topic instead of trying to understand why Trump has a big event and shows 19 flags flying —a clear comm to anons.


889 posted on 11/23/2022 6:25:59 PM PST by smileyface ("The illuminati's whole philosophy demands the use, abuse, sacrifice and consumption of children.")
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To: smileyface; little jeremiah
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 11/20/2022 Vol.435, Q Day 1849, smileyface wrote:

This exchange was not about “Sovereign Citizenship”. I have heard Derek Johnson 3-4 times and he did not mention “Sovereign Citizenship” as I recall. The term is an oxymoron, as far as I can determine. Either you are a citizen, or you are a sovereign.

The exchange was about the republic vs the incorporated entity it may have become. And whether we are going back to the republic. I asked for sauce.

“Sovereign Citizenship” could be part of a republic/incorporated entity, but it is not the same thing. Not sure why you have chosen to focus on this topic instead of trying to understand why Trump has a big event and shows 19 flags flying —a clear comm to anons.

I've heard Derek Johnson speak before and though he did not use the specific term 'Sovereign Citizenship', he distinguishes between the federal government and the corporate entity that Sovereign Citizens also identify.

Since I am unwilling to find that video at the moment, I will change my terminology to say he 'may' support Sovereign Citizenship. Hearing what he said at the time, given the company he keeps, a red flag went up. However, I got busy and didn't have time to go back and investigate.

For those wondering what content I said was not welcome on Q threads, here's one of many articles about Sovereign Citizenship.

https://www.sog.unc.edu/sites/www.sog.unc.edu/files/Sov%20citizens%20quick%20guide%20Nov%2013.pdf

I understand that filthy 'Elites' created a system wherein they made America a debtor nation. It's easy for disinformationists to take that split between the seizure of American financial system and the Sovereign Citizenship to lead Anons off track into SC theory without realizing it.

It's necessary to be very careful to find out if a sourcetalking about the corporate US entity is only displaying the tip of the iceberg of the SC theory or if they are referring to the monetary system.

As I said, when Derek Johnson spoke of it, I had a red flag moment and meant to try to find out more of what he's saying because I don't want to follow crumbs which lead off the path. But then I never went back to watch more Derek Johnson.

I haven't seen anyone's analysis or sauce for Derek Johnson's references to what may be a core of Sovereign Citizen theory, or may not. Perhaps someone who has extensive knowledge of the financial system seizure can chime in here and tell us a few core points we can look for to help us find valid content about the financial system per Q.

I have skeptically listened to what Johnson says twice, because he sometimes cites US documentation I find of interest. However, his associates (SP, JOS etc.) certainly undermine my confidence in him - he had options and chose his associates poorly. So I don't plan to watch his content unless I want his links to documentation.

"Not sure why you have chosen to focus on this topic instead of trying to understand why Trump has a big event and shows 19 flags flying —a clear comm to anons."

I am guilty of Thanks Giving-itis wherein I had time to read the ping and reply but didn't trace the conversation all the way back to its origin. Having nailed another T-Day menu item, just before heading back to make cranberry sauce, I looked back to find the origin. It looks like there isn't enough information about Johnson's theories to discern which side of the SC/monetary split he's on.

I hope FReeQs can help us find ways to quickly distinguish between these competing explanations because we really can't afford to assume we know which one a source is referring to when 'the republic vs the incorporated entity it may have become' is mentioned. I would not want FReeQs framed for the insurrectionist group because we assumed the source was referring to the 'good one' all that time.

I am not yet among those who consider 19 flags 'clear comms' but that may just be because I haven't seen the analysis and sauce yet. Can you provide a link to the analysis, sauce or explanation of the 'clear comms" to which you are referring?

Now, back to cranberry sauce....


913 posted on 11/23/2022 7:46:16 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: smileyface
years ago I looked into Sovereign Citizenship. I didn't save anything on it though I came to the belief that it's real. The US government and all western states are a corporation though when it comes to the individual it doesn't matter because the courts don't recognize it.
If the courts believe black is white. then black is white according to law. This is why the narrative is critical to uphold our western civilization.
This lady did a fair job at explaining Sovereign Citizenship history.
https://youtu.be/9tiTmoMjqj8?t=3586
941 posted on 11/23/2022 11:52:41 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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