Posted on 11/09/2022 7:55:10 AM PST by redguyinabluestate
DeSantis never pledges to serve 4 years - citation please.
Lots of finger pointing this morning. Everyone should calm down a bit and let the final races play out. Take a breath. Regroup. Appreciate the wins we get and if we take the house, that will matter.
If you don’t think DeSantis crushing it in Florida doesnt make him an obviously better option for 2024 just by virtue of his not aiming a shotgun at his foot every time he opens steps out in public, they should change the name of FreeRepublic to TrumpRepublic and be done.
Some article quoting an anonymous third party insider claims DeSantis has said he won't run if Trump runs.
DeSantis himself has never said this and after last night, he should leave his options open because Trump is finished.
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Well said, Thank you!
DeSantis isn’t running
Trump is bleeding supporters. He is out of touch with the people.
He’ll be 80, and if he somehow won, he could only serve 1 term,and we’d be back to figuring out the next candidate.
And meanwhile we’d keep losing elections, like we have ever since Trump eeked out the presidential victory in 2016.
Better to pick a popular, articulate person who could serve two terms and achieve something.
It is hard to see how anybody could argue that crazy people assaulting police officers and storming the capital did ANYTHING at all positive for anything conservatives want to accomplish.
And it is hard to see how anybody could argue that keeping classified documents in your home and fighting over it helps any conservative cause.
And this seems to be a conservative site, more or less, although Trump was never a conservative and he got a lot of support here, because Trump is for Trump, and he managed to get conservatives supporting him, so he did what they wanted, to some degree.
Like I said before - you are on the wrong site.
President Trump is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. Obama ran around for people and no one is blaming him for losses. President Trump worked hard for the Republican Party but they don’t deserve him.
I’m hoping that Trump (and his advisors) think long and hard about announcing next. Not sure his ego will allow it but, here’s hoping.
I agree. 🙂
This site has a wide range of people, some of whom are conservative.
Trump was never a conservative. He was at best a populist with a tilt toward business. His position changes for the 2016 election were well documented, and one could hope they were truthful, and that the would learn how to govern.
They were mostly not, and he never got past everything being about him. The media and the dems made it very hard for him; his repeated bad picks for appointments were all self-owns. Ceding most judges to a conservative group was the best thing he did, as his personal choices for judges were not particularly helpful.
When his personal fortunes lined up with conservative causes, he was great. If he hadn’t lost the house, we might have actually been able to pass a law codifying some of his gains on the immigration front. Yet immigration hardly mattered in this election, no messaging mattered in this election, because in the end, Trump made it all about him, and he is still unpopular in general, and not particularly a vote draw amongst republicans, so races that looked like we might squeak out all fell the other way after he held rallies. But his rallies were “popular” for him, and for Trump, that is the important thing.
That anybody saw Trump as anything more than a rough tool to try to get what conservatives wanted is hilarious. That they thought he could be controlled, managed, or focused on winning political battles was clearly a mistake. That people still think he’s some sort of savior indicates the cult status of a narcissist.
I remember when conservative meant limiting government as much as possible so it mattered as little as possible in our day-to-day lives. Trump was the opposite, and we are still paying the price.
which people did Obama “run around for” that lost?
Lauren Boebert could possible lose an R+7 rural seat, in a year where people were begging for a rational alternative to the democrats.
Trump worked hard for himself, failed himself, blames people he hand-picked like Oz and Buldoc, while he hardly spent any of his own money. And some people think Trump did all he could, and blame McConnell for not spending MORE than the $243 million he spent trying to prop up the Trump-primary picks.
Now, our response to Dobbs was also a real killer. Not having prepared a message or strategy, and allowing democrats and the media to define the choices as “ban on contraceptives” vs “codifying roe”, when the real national choice was between later-term abortion restrictions (most of which were in bounds for Roe), vs abortion on demand for all 9 months, drove away once again the suburban women; who of course never really liked Trump.
The democrats spent 2 years setting up this election as a Trump election, Trump joined them, and we got the result you could expect.
Case in point - They were mostly not, and he never got past everything being about him.
Do you honestly think that anyone but Trump would have stood up to the left with regards to the beating Kavanaugh took? No one, not one other GOP President wouldn't have.
MTG said it best yesterday:
I wish Pres Trump announced last night in Ohio, but he chose to put everyone else first. He’s held 30 rallies in 17 states, hosted 43 telerallies & 52 candidate fundraisers, & endorsed 285 candidates while being politically persecuted. He’s put everyone else first all along.— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) November 8, 2022
Wasn't her district redistricted making that R+7 seat a thing of the past?
There was a large swing for Suburban Women for the GOP this election - It was rather large so let me get that info for you. But your analysis is incorrect.
If Trump runs, the Dems will win in 2024 regardless of who actually wins the nomination. If Trump is the nominee, a lot of people who may like what he has done but don’t want another 4 years like his last term will either not vote or vote for someone else. If anyone but Trump is the nominee, Trump will undercut them at everyone opportunity, and all of the Trump cultists will sit the election out. Either way, we lose.
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