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What We Knew In The Early Days Of COVID: Why all this came to be completely ignored remains the burning question.
Brownstone Institute ^ | 11/06/2022

Posted on 11/06/2022 8:58:32 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: FamiliarFace
Maybe where you lived.

Covid-19 has claimed the lives of more than 1 million people since the start of the pandemic in 2020.

61 posted on 11/07/2022 8:28:31 AM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Fear mongering at its finest.

Have a blessed day.


62 posted on 11/07/2022 8:36:36 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: DannyTN

Danny,
Your post included this:
“To this day, the most respected US major medical organizations still recommended masks, and many freepers and anti-vaxers are vehemently against them. So what do we “know”?”


Who are the “respected ... medical organizations” of whom you speak?
I think they may have been respected in the past. But you perhaps have not been paying attention. (Even though you are a regular poster on FR.)
The mask-thing was a totally sick fraud from the start. And even a blind person could see that.
But I bet social scientists will be drawing conclusions and inferences from the period for several decades.
In fact, I would not be surprised for hard evidence to surface showing that this was a DeepState scam just to study how much people could be sheepled.


63 posted on 11/07/2022 9:25:13 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: semimojo
According to your articles, the NBA and NHL both canceled their seasons because the players tested positive for COVID-19. It wasn't because they wanted to, it was because they had to.

Your major concerts articles were dated after Houston canceled their Livestock Show and Rodeo and the Eagles canceled their Dallas show.

Your Tuscon article is dated January 2022, which is two years beyond the scope of this discussion of the early days.

-PJ

64 posted on 11/07/2022 9:29:08 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Timber Rattler

Correct.
“Two weeks to flatten the curve.” That will be known as “the lie told round the world”.
Most everyone I know was willing to make that little sacrifice on a GOOD-FAITH basis. And now the bastards want Covid Amnesty? Fat chance of that.


65 posted on 11/07/2022 9:32:41 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free
This post-mortem needs to be looked at as a crime scene, not just a “what can we do better next time.”

👍

66 posted on 11/07/2022 10:36:34 AM PST by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATI6ON. Never be a peaceful slave in new Socialist America.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
According to your articles, the NBA and NHL both canceled their seasons because the players tested positive for COVID-19. It wasn't because they wanted to, it was because they had to.

They had a couple of players get Covid. They would have had plenty left to play games.

Even so, so what? My point is it wasn't government initiated.

You said it never even happened.

Your major concerts articles were dated after Houston canceled their Livestock Show and Rodeo and the Eagles canceled their Dallas show.

Again, so what? Read the articles - they didn't cancel because of government mandates.

Your Tuscon article is dated January 2022, which is two years beyond the scope of this discussion of the early days.

I know. It proves that even recently businesses were shutting down because of Covid concerns even though all government restrictions had been lifted.

67 posted on 11/07/2022 11:07:00 AM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo
They had a couple of players get Covid. They would have had plenty left to play games.

Boy, that's insensitive.

It's like saying that a couple of people got cancer working at a manufacturing plant, but we still have plenty of workers to keep it going instead of shutting it down to look for possible sources of contamination.

Even so, so what? My point is it wasn't government initiated. You said it never even happened.

Now you're putting words in my mouth again. I never said it never happened.

You said "No one forced the NBA, NHL, concert promoters, etc. etc. to shut down."

I showed you how the mayor of Houston shut down the premier annual city event, how the state of Texas issued executive orders shutting down public gatherings, "non-essential" businesses, and quarantining travelers within two weeks of the CDC's 14 days protocol. Texas shut these things down until they knew more.

But you're the one who said "no one" did these things.

-PJ

68 posted on 11/07/2022 11:18:31 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too
Now you're putting words in my mouth again. I never said it never happened.

I'm calling bullshit on this...

Sorry, I assumed that meant you were calling bullshit on my statement.

But you're the one who said "no one" did these things.

LOL. You found one.

I guess you got me now!

69 posted on 11/07/2022 12:00:27 PM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo
I was.

You said "No one forced the NBA, NHL, concert promoters, etc. etc. to shut down." I proved that to be false.

You said "their customers weren’t about to go out in public." I proved that to be false, too.

I told you anecdotally that the Toyota Center was full on March 7. You must know of all the stories of restaurants that began providing outdoor seating because of customer demand. You must know of all the stories of people trying to go to parks, like the Orthodox Jewish people who kept cutting the locks on their neighborhood parks in New York City.

So, yes, I was calling out your statement, but that's not saying that there weren't pockets of places that did it voluntarily. I think putting up the state of Texas against your small examples makes my point rather than yours.

-PJ

70 posted on 11/07/2022 12:08:11 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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This looks like it was written by Tucker, not sure why he didn't sign it. It's ok because I don't give a rat's ass what he says.

COVID-19 was a Peoples Liberation Army bioweapon, brought to its released state by gain-of-function research aided by Fauxi and other globalists. It was released in Wuhan to have a foothold by their national holiday week Oct 2019.

The wet market just happened to be the Ground Zero vector because it was where the old mandarins shopped, who got it first and worst.

The timing was to stop the renewed Hong Kong demonstrations, the knock-on effect was to defeat Trump.

Note very, very carefully that the Chinese learned incalculably valuable lessons when the PLA first released the MERS coronavirus against the ruling-class of Arabs in 2012. The Chinese had been rejected in a contemporary attempt to scrape away the business trade in petrodollars to the yuan, so badly that they perceived a great loss of face. MERS' R-factor failed to perform as expected, and so new gain-of-function research, with fresh, underhanded funding from Fauxi, renewed China's hopes.

[It is this gain-of-function funding that the Democrats fear will be revealed by Fauxi -- under oath in front of Chairman Paul's Senate Health Committee -- that will lead to their wipeout, perhaps as a Party entirely, in 2024.]

Nearly every 'scientist', on their first electron view of the virus, exclaimed some version of "look at that hardened shell" and "is it airborne?". Yes and yes.

In just this short time after COVID, it is possible to have a retrospective, and it is painfully obvious the CCP and the PLA, with global comrades-in-arms, selected this specific, post-MERS, designer-hardened virus, from a handful of candidates, foremostly for its projected fear factor (average R0 2-3 at the outset, fixing MERS shortcomings so it's gonna fly before it expires, plus Alpha's >5% terrible 'broken-glass' pneumonia; again, both were known outcomes to the Chinese, who promptly locked down internal flights but kept international flights up and running).

COVID-19's lifetime >1% mortality rate, again chosen from their bioweapon list to spare, well, nearly everyone in a global sense, BUT keyed to a steep incline after 70 ('useress eaters', and once more, a built-in guaranteed fear factor), that was impervious to vaccination (note that China, who create working vaccines of all kinds, and the most populous country on the globe, put up one strangely lame COVID vax attempt in SinoVax, just as quickly put it away, and immediately reverted to their communist 'crackdown' style of isolating outbreaks, while also expanding their DNA database to encompass all of their citizens, and a few too many foreigners), and finally, the Chinese knew it would mutate repeatedly, evading all prevention and most treatment every step of the way, until it was subsumed into our globally-shared virosphere.

I could go on, but this is a succinct enough, well-made case of forcing every single discussion henceforth on COVID -- not when, not if, not why, not who, but HOW does the United States lead the punishment on China?

There is no other conclusion: China has forfeited its sovereignty (which was always tenuous at best), as it can never again be trusted as an equal partner in any global organization you care to name.

Since China has his tentacles deeply wrapped around too many globalist organizations, their punishment must be a combination of overt US national policy, but also deploying numerous, surreptitious means of destroying XI, destroying his regmine, destroying the CCP, destroying the PLA, and disrupting and disabling China's bioweapon program.

There is no other possible response to China's Act of War, because failure to punish them will merely embold them to choose a virus higher on the list of mortality (see, DNA collection above) the next time around, which I am certain the dirty, godless, amoral, eggsuckingconfuciankowtowing communist bastards will do, and before we reach mid-century.

71 posted on 11/07/2022 12:22:04 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: semimojo; Political Junkie Too
Easy guys, both good Freepers, you want the moment the inexplicable inevitable arrived, courtesy of a Chinese bioweapon? When St. John’s-Creighton was cancelled at halftime during the Big East tournament on March 12, 2020.

Big East officials were arguing with NCAA officials on a live mic, and the few people there made for the exits, I gotta tell you my gut tightened up right then and there, knowing we were in the deep end of the panic at that point.

Again, Chinese bioweapon, say it freely, say it often. Be good.

72 posted on 11/07/2022 12:29:53 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
You said "No one forced the NBA, NHL, concert promoters, etc. etc. to shut down." I proved that to be false.

I showed that the NBA, NHL and the world's largest concert promoters chose to suspend operations on their own.

You said "their customers weren’t about to go out in public." I proved that to be false, too.

By claiming you went to a concert March 7th, before the pandemic really got going?

What I said was "If you look back to early/mid 2020 you’ll see all kinds of businesses voluntarily shutting down. If for no other reason than their customers weren’t about to go out in public.", which is undeniable. That doesn't mean the government didn't also shut some things down, and it doesn't mean no one still went out.

It does mean it wasn't all due to governmental lockdowns.

I think putting up the state of Texas against your small examples makes my point rather than yours.

Small examples like the NBA, NHL, the world's largest concert promotors, and how about the major theatre chains that closed nationwide - not because of government lockdowns?

It was a messy time but you can't seriously deny that a lot of businesses closed voluntarily and a lot of people avoided going out in public - voluntarily.

73 posted on 11/07/2022 12:34:51 PM PST by semimojo
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To: SeekAndFind

Then why do children have to take this bogus Gene therapy shot to attend school? Why are no candidates talking about this?


74 posted on 11/07/2022 12:46:28 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: SeekAndFind

It was all done knowingly and maliciously. With evil intent.


75 posted on 11/07/2022 6:21:24 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: DannyTN
The answers were all there for everyone to see with the Diamond Princess cruise ship. We could look at the raw numbers prior to everything being politicized. As soon as I saw that all COVID deaths (around 10-12 people) on the ship were people over the age of 75, I could tell we were being lied to.

COVID has never been a statistical threat to any relatively healthy person under 70. The pandemic was all lies, day in, day out.

It was the most successful scam in human history.

76 posted on 11/08/2022 4:07:15 PM PST by GunRunner
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