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Why, Despite Good Intentions, Ken Burns’s "The U.S. and the Holocaust" Fails
Mosaic Magazine ^ | OCT. 13 2022 | RUTH R. WISSE

Posted on 10/18/2022 5:04:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 10/18/2022 5:04:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Good intentions, my a$$.


2 posted on 10/18/2022 5:06:58 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't tell where we're going if you don't know where we've been)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Good intentions, my a$$

You Beat me to it by seconds


3 posted on 10/18/2022 5:10:24 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: nickcarraway; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
[snip] ...several critics, for their part, faulted the documentary for trying to insulate President Franklin D. Roosevelt from its indictment of the rest of America. The series’ apologetics for this Democratic icon—absolving FDR of accountability for the people whom he installed, the policies he administered, and the country he led—appeared in sharp contrast... In doing so, the series paid far greater attention to those who kept Jews out than to those who helped secure their entry—or who focused on winning the war. [/snip]

4 posted on 10/18/2022 5:10:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Yup


5 posted on 10/18/2022 5:10:58 PM PDT by Smellin Salt
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To: Kaiser8408a

Then there was The Old Negro Space Program
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6xJzAYYrX8


7 posted on 10/18/2022 5:13:08 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nickcarraway

No mention of Eisenhower, who liberated Dachau and ordered everything be photographed and documented because without said documentation he feared nobody would have believed the horrors that occurred to be true?


8 posted on 10/18/2022 5:15:07 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: nickcarraway
We holocausted the Indians. We enslaved all the Black people. And we killed all the Jews.

It's a good thing the evil US is on the way out.

I too will welcome our benevolent Chinese overlords.

9 posted on 10/18/2022 5:15:38 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: nickcarraway

Uh, lib progressive UPOS? Sounds right to me. 😎👍


10 posted on 10/18/2022 5:22:05 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: SunkenCiv

Had a Jewish friend, now deceased, told me very similar stories about Roosevelt. We had hours of discussions about as she said “All things Jewish”. Like so many older folks she delved into history.
Died at 99.


11 posted on 10/18/2022 5:23:19 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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[snip] ...citing a passage in the diaries of Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau Jr. (who was Jewish). In it, there is an account of a conversation he had with a fellow administration official who told him Roosevelt had told him that America was a Protestant country, “and the Catholics and Jews are here under sufferance.” Medoff also offers an example from the Yalta Conference of February 1945 when, according to the autobiography of Charles E. Bohlen – a senior State Department official who was part of delegation – Roosevelt told Joseph Stalin he would soon be seeing Saudi Arabian leader Ibn Saud. When Stalin asked if he intended to make any concessions to the king, the president allegedly smiled and said the only concession he might offer was 6 million American Jews. [/snip]

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/holocaust-remembrance-day/2019-01-06/ty-article/.premium/u-s-holocaust-museum-accused-of-whitewashing-fdrs-record-on-saving-jews/0000017f-e3e6-df7c-a5ff-e3fe137e0000


12 posted on 10/18/2022 5:30:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: nickcarraway

Politicizing the Holocaust under the guise of documentary and then politicizing it wrong.


13 posted on 10/18/2022 5:37:00 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

“Good intentions, my a$$.”

From what I’ve read and been told (went to visit family in Germany in the 80’s and learned alot) the Nazi used a TB scare to start rounding up Jews.

Using a disease to round up a group of people. Sound familiar?

Ask Whitmer and Cuomo.


14 posted on 10/18/2022 5:37:22 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

You might want to explain that post.


15 posted on 10/18/2022 5:41:44 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: nickcarraway

To me, it had two big failures. One, in Germany in the mid-1930s, even though there was repression and really bad rhetoric, people still thought of it as a civilized western country. The land of poets and philosophers. In reality, nobody dreamed that they would set up murder factories and kill 15 or 20 million people on an industrial scale. Two, when the repression was very bad, and times got very hard on Jewish people in Germany, we were in the absolute depths of the great depression. Opening the door to millions of European immigrants when the nation had 1/3 of the people out of work was simply not in the cards.
Also, even though I run the risk of sounding like Kanye, people were well aware that Jewish people were fairly friendly with socialism. There were sound reasons to not let all of the Jews in Europe immigrate to America in the 1930s. Number one of which, nobody could really imagine what was about to happen. It was more unthinkable than people realize. And this is probably some lame brain attempt on the part of Ken Burns to pretend America is turning Nazi today under Trump or something like that.

It was a simplistic exercise and looking at what we know now and thinking it was obvious to the people back in that time.


16 posted on 10/18/2022 5:43:56 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: nickcarraway

Being a history buff I tried to watch the series.

Couldn’t though,the bullsh$t of Burn’s politics burns through any insight the series might have.

I quit after twenty minutes.


17 posted on 10/18/2022 5:48:31 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: pfflier

Satire, I believe.


18 posted on 10/18/2022 5:50:57 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: dfwgator
Then there was The Old Negro Space Program

Don't give Burns credit for that genuinely funny piece. He might accept it.

19 posted on 10/18/2022 5:52:47 PM PDT by TChad (Progressives are in favor of removing healthy sex organs from children. Conservatives oppose this.)
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To: nickcarraway

Lest we forget, the necessary goal of making America able and willing to confront and defeat the forces that threaten civilization requires the resolve to do it and the power to back up that resolve.

When our schools and media emphasize American failure over American achievement, they burrow at the foundations of the Republic.

Do not think that that emphasis is by any means an
accident. We are approaching the moment the communists
have been working toward for over a hundred years!!


20 posted on 10/18/2022 5:54:41 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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