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Towing with my Ford Lightning EV Pickup was a TOTAL DISASTER!
Hoovies Garage ^ | 9/23/22 | Hoovies Garage

Posted on 10/03/2022 10:50:05 PM PDT by DallasBiff

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To: qaz123

41 posted on 10/04/2022 4:03:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Fai Mao; DallasBiff
No, if they are not moving, the EV engine is not on. Does the electric engine in your washing machine use any electricity if it isn’t being used? Neither does a Tesla.

Actually, if there is any kind of electric use, even just standby kind of stuff, there is a constant slow trickle of electricity.

42 posted on 10/04/2022 4:15:28 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: 867V309

I skipped that day in Electromechanics class. When you are sitting in traffic running the heater and watching the snow fall harder and harder, and you’ve got the radio, wifi, and are running a call, that’s unicorn fart mode.

The unicorn fart storage goes down a little until they come around and nozzle up to the car to deposit more.

Absurd. 25lbs of zinc requires 500 lbs of ore. Never mind the 60 lbs of copper and 40 lbs of nickel.

Never mind the 90 tanker cars of sulfuric acid per day required to mine it.

These EVs are going to save the planet. Just you watch. Mass formation psychosis. Nothing more.


43 posted on 10/04/2022 4:23:54 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Travis McGee

That doesn’t matter, Travis, because electricity comes out of the wall. Just ask a hipster.


44 posted on 10/04/2022 4:38:07 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: chuckles

Has anybody done the math and posted the results to a cost of ownership (operating cost) comparison between an ICE vehicle and an EV? What is the breakeven point where oil/gas in an ICE surpasses cost of electricity?

Simple questions but I’ve never seen Tesla or other EVs post that info. As for charging at 240V, I would suspect people will “plug in” every night just to keep the EV at say 80% for the next day. What is the power draw, is it like running your 5-ton AC for 8-10hrs straight? What is the cost of an EV fill-up in the real world? Some studies have already shown that with strictly highway miles, range is reduced by 30%. EVs, TOO MANY SMOKE AND MIRRORS!!!


45 posted on 10/04/2022 4:49:20 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Fai Mao

If it is very cold out (for example, if stuck in a traffic jam at 10 degrees), I would think the battery would drain even if the car is off, just like it would when parked overnight outside in the same temperature. Of course, if it is that cold, you would need the heat on for sure.


46 posted on 10/04/2022 4:52:15 AM PDT by Stingray51 ( )
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To: Travis McGee

Maybe EV owners should carry a small hibachi and some charcoal briquets in case they get stranded in the cold and use up all their battery charge running the heater.


47 posted on 10/04/2022 4:56:39 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Gaffer

EV trucks should have an on board generator.


48 posted on 10/04/2022 4:57:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: POWG
I expect battery technology will continue to improve and eventually eliminate this issue.

I expect a call back from Jennifer Anniston accepting my marriage proposal.

49 posted on 10/04/2022 5:00:07 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: DallasBiff

“and you get stuck in a traffic jam, and run out of juice, you are blocking traffic”

I think the point should really have been: What if an EV runs out of charge during an evacuation and causes a traffic jam?

Regardless, I think you could push it off to the side of the road like any car.


50 posted on 10/04/2022 5:11:25 AM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: Fai Mao

That is the point, stalled EV’s will stop gas powered vehicles and they will run out of gas thereby reducing pollution and fossil fuel usage! The Globalist are really smart!


51 posted on 10/04/2022 5:31:51 AM PDT by Hot Rod Garage (Shark)
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To: qaz123
but a car that is advertised to get 400 miles on one tank of gas, but since you shouldn’t fill the tank all the way, you can only drive it 240 miles.

To be fair, you shouldn't max out the range of your gasoline vehicle in Texas summer heat; you'll burn out your fuel pump.

52 posted on 10/04/2022 5:34:09 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: DallasBiff

Oh, it is going somewhere alright. And it is where they want it to go.

The government is pushing it. There are states mandating it. The manufacturers are into it because they see sales and subsidies.

I wouldn’t doubt if the manufacturers are putting all their best resources in both design and engineering into EV to make them stylish.

But they won’t be able to improve the performance until there is a breakthrough. Oh, they will find ways to bump it here and there, but the bottom line, as the guy says in the video, EV’s are turds.

You can polish a turd all you want, make it stylish, increas e its performance a bit here and there, but...it is still going to be a turd.

I admit, I did openly laugh when the guy lost three miles of range just pulling out of the driveway!


53 posted on 10/04/2022 5:43:29 AM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: PAR35

So, in the Texas heat one shouldn’t fill the gas tank?


54 posted on 10/04/2022 5:48:00 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123; PAR35

He was talking about running near empty. And he’s right.


55 posted on 10/04/2022 5:53:45 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Fox News is CNN-Lite.)
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To: Fresh Wind

I’m aware of that.

So how does not allowing a gas tank to go dry relate to not charging a battery to 100%?

refilling at 1/4 tank ….. not charging to 100% is the same?


56 posted on 10/04/2022 6:04:56 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: 867V309

There is a lot of confusion in this Hoovie story.
Even on his behalf.

The first solar panel was sold in the late 50s. About 6 years later roofs started to see them.

It took 50 years before they started making the correct impact on the individual.

Electric cars were invented in the late 1800s and only lately has their been development to get them where they are now.

Is going to take time. Ford HAD to build this truck. They knew full-well that it was going to fail in this regard. But these are steps that have to be taken to perfect it. There must be a demand to invent new batteries before any new battery will be made. There has to be demand, and this is what that demands looks like.

On the political side, which is why we’re here, Tyler Hoover is upset that his video is being used ‘by the extreme right” (asked Jones) as a political tool. Hoover is a leftist.

Alex got many things wrong in his report about the car and the review. Hoover got many things wrong about Alex in his political rant. This is to be expected because Alex isn’t a car guy and Tyler isn’t a pundit.

But absolutely PISSES ME OFF here is that 1just about post in this thread is just verbal diarrhea. Posts flying off the keyboard from a bunch of people who think they know everything.

The politics are clear and the point on FR still isn’t lost. Elitist, leftist politicians (R or D) can not make laws that require people to buy things (like Obama care and auto insurance requirements) and can’t expect to legislate science and invention.

In other words, every post here actually IS correct. Alex Jones IS correct. Tyler Hoover IS correct and I’m correct.

As with everything in life, these wireless politicians have us at each other’s throats and IGNORING the real problem. Tyranny.


57 posted on 10/04/2022 6:36:21 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: chuckles
A car getting 30+ mpg would probably emit less CO2 than the electric plant charging an EV.

I'd like to see a calculation on this comparison. The EV'ers haven't demonstrated it yet.

58 posted on 10/04/2022 6:42:23 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: qaz123

Apples and oranges.

Different technologies, different issues, and different consequences.

The fact remains, users of ICE vehicles don’t worry much about range. EV users do.

Run on or near empty and you might have to replace the fuel pump (an immediate expense). You might be stranded somewhere which is inconvenient or possibly dangerous, depending on circumstances. Regularly filling to full is not an issue for vehicle longevity or range.

Discharging past 20% and charging past 80% on a regular basis can only degrade the battery faster than it would degrade if you respect those limits. It doesn’t cause an immediate failure. You have plenty of time to unload the vehicle if you want to avoid a battery replacement.


59 posted on 10/04/2022 7:02:51 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Fox News is CNN-Lite.)
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To: central_va

You know? If I had an EV truck I’d look into a small generator that could power up and run maybe an hour to get 50 miles or so worth of charge on the truck batteries. It really isn’t any different that having a spare can of gas in the back of the bed.


60 posted on 10/04/2022 7:07:48 AM PDT by Gaffer (I)
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