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Classified UFO videos would 'harm national security' if released, Navy says
livescience.com ^ | Brandon Specktor

Posted on 09/10/2022 5:53:57 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: BenLurkin

The thing they REALLY don’t want you to know...is that they don’t know anything either. The government/military does not control the UFO-related body of knowledge. They are clients of those who control the files/patents/technical data packages...the contractors.

THAT’S what they really can’t afford to tell you, that they like us are pretty much out of the loop of top tier tech, other than what the contractors are willing to package up and sell to them.

The biggest government secret of all, is that the government is not really in charge.


101 posted on 09/10/2022 1:11:33 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: JustaTech

For a moment entertain the notion that CIA-controlled military contractors gained exclusive control of the UFO “package” in the ‘50s. Now think about Eisenhower’s departing warning about the Military Industrial Complex in that context.

Get a chill?

The hub of the “complex” is the CIA. It’s CIA actors such as Elizondo who are crawling out of the woodwork and selling their version of “disclosure”. It’s a ploy.


102 posted on 09/10/2022 1:29:38 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: JustaTech

For a moment entertain the notion that the government, particularly the Executive, was not in 1961 settled with the notion that it would be only a client and not the custodian. Imagine the incoming POTUS was determined to get the UFO package back into White House hands even if it meant smashing the CIA to bits.

Imagine what the CIA would do to that POTUS...


103 posted on 09/10/2022 1:45:56 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: GingisK

That is ridiculous. Everything that is created comes from God. He gave man the intellect, the materials, and the motivation. Everything created comes from God. Including the strength by which you are able to work.

Nothing is outside the sovereignty of God. Gotquestions.org may be a help to you.


104 posted on 09/10/2022 1:48:17 PM PDT by Salvavida (“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”)
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To: JustaTech

The CIA totally disgusts me—but there is zero evidence that this particular agency is where the “alien” secrets lie.

Elizondo was Pentagon.

Former CIA Director Helms actually joined “The Aviary” (a private group investigating the phenomenon) after he retired from the CIA, not because he had the secrets, but because he wanted to learn about them!


105 posted on 09/10/2022 1:50:10 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Salvavida

I was responding to your assertion that everything was explained in the Bible. Of course everything comes from God; however, the Bible explains nothing besides our Path back to Himself. He did leave us a whole box of puzzles to solve. I believe that Creation is very big, including other “people” out in Cosmos.


106 posted on 09/10/2022 1:54:05 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

People as in humanoids? I don’t hold that belief.

Right now, the principle task given to humans is to find their way back to God. Alien life only confuses the issue, and the Bible is clear where confusion comes from.

The Bible also explains a lot more than just the path back to him. It includes the spirit realm, history, love, history, relationships, language, justice, etc. And it even squeezes science in their too.


107 posted on 09/10/2022 2:07:57 PM PDT by Salvavida (“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”)
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To: cgbg

Some CIA are never officially on the publicly-reportable payroll and never break cover within other government agencies. Prime example Peter Strzok, CIA embedded in FBI leadership.

Elizondo has been in intelligence all his career. He’s a spook beyond all doubt.

Not likely an intelligence agency will leave smoking gun evidence laying around. But when you have several decades of events in hindsight, going back to WWII and even prior, capabilities and tendencies can be discerned.

It’s clear the CIA is the nastiest of the nasty. If they didn’t have the golden goose they’d rob and murder whoever did. Therefore it’s a fairly safe assumption they have it.


108 posted on 09/10/2022 2:41:33 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: JustaTech

There are twenty something intelligence agencies in the US these days.

Blaming one of them for everything and anything is laughable on its face.


109 posted on 09/10/2022 5:42:37 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg

It was only the CIA that JFK vowed to shatter into a thousand pieces.

It was only the CIA that spurred JFK to write NSAM-57 (National Security Action Memo, IIRC). It was a memo to the effect of interjecting the Executive level of the Pentagon into the command loop between CIA and US military special forces. The memo was never implemented before JFK’s death, not until acting Defense Sec Chris Miller did it at the end of Trump’s first term. Of course the implementation was short-lived but perhaps the intent was to set a precedent.

In any case, the CIA is in a completely different category from typical “intelligence agencies”. It presumes itself to be the real government. The government we vote for is the “rube” government, for us rubes.


110 posted on 09/10/2022 6:05:03 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: JustaTech

The history is correct—as far as it goes.

But—if you read the Snowden disclosures you would know the NSA has done stuff that is incredibly bad.

We don’t know what we don’t know about the other agencies...


111 posted on 09/10/2022 6:29:19 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: BenLurkin

Debriefed years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qDy4OMAkgY


112 posted on 09/10/2022 7:10:10 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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113 posted on 09/10/2022 7:14:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Life matches Sci-Fi after 50 years.

114 posted on 09/10/2022 7:22:48 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: cockroach_magoo
Like President Reagan at the Useless Nations.

“I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you, is not an alien force already among us? What could be more alien to the universal aspirations of our peoples than war and the threat of war?”

https://www.cultureready.org/blog/reagans-1987-un-speech-alien-threat-resonates-now

115 posted on 09/10/2022 7:46:45 PM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !7)
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To: Candor7

In 1968, two patrol boats in the DMZ between North and South Vietnam spotted a couple of UFOs approaching them. The two UFOs stopped and hovered over the first patrol boat. Crew members of the second patrol boat watched as a flash of light from the UFOs completely engulfed the first boat and destroyed it in a huge explosion.In a separate incident, the only known photograph of a UFO from the Vietnam War was taken in 1967. An American serviceman was riding in the back of a truck in Chu Lai when he spotted an odd object.With his Electro-35 Yashica camera, the soldier took a picture of a cylindrical object hovering just above the country road. These sorts of experiences made UFO stories somewhat common during the Vietnam War.Zachery Brasier doesn’t believe UFO stories, but he finds them fun to read.


116 posted on 09/10/2022 9:04:15 PM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !7)
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To: mabarker1

Very interesting story. Onw wonders why the second boat was not destroyed as well. Is there ANY logic outside of mere impulse?

I do not bleieve for a moment that aliens , should they exist, are in any way our “friends.”

They see us as ignorant and regressive IMHO. But they cannot go head to head with us for some reason. There is a limitation on what they do when interacting with human beings. Whether self imnposed or not, is an unanswered question.

If they are herders and we the sheep, all the more reason to insist that we be treated as equals, and engage in a form of technical interchange. They help us in that way or we run them off.

They do not behave as friends in all the reports I have seen. No rescues of humans in distress. No use of power to interrupt and end war, or to aid in the human suffering caused by natural disaster. NOT FRIENDS.


117 posted on 09/11/2022 2:06:50 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: cgbg

Seems possible...


118 posted on 09/11/2022 2:29:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (Biden's 'WAR ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE' speech is history's Jimmah Carter's BIG RABBIT blunder..)
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To: Candor7

This stuff is really complicated.

If you want to learn about some “good aliens” then check out the story of the Bledsoe family.

The best place to start is this podcast:

https://podbay.fm/p/bledsoe-said-so/e/1640160000

I am a big believer in “you get what you give”.

Homo Sapiens has a very mixed track record in that regard.

;-)


119 posted on 09/11/2022 5:29:43 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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