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To: Bob Ireland

Have you watched ROP yet?

What do the words Mana and Ure mean O keeper of the Dictionary?


929 posted on 09/09/2022 7:48:10 AM PDT by Gasshog
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To: Gasshog
***What do the words Mana and Ure mean O keeper of the Dictionary?***

Out of context that can present problems.

'Ure' -- Looking at the Silmarillion portion of the Dictionary, in Sindarin UR as a root indicates 'great', possibly a 'point' {of a spear}.
In Quenya UR as a root means 'hot', 'fire'.
In Black Speech we encounter the term 'Uruk-hai'; Tolkien says the Black Speech word uruk was likely adapted from the ancient Elvish; see stems RUK- 'demon' ... ÓROK- 'goblin'.
'ur-' by itself, if in the Mannish tongue, might derive from the Anglo Saxon earg, ierg-, yrc- 'slothful', 'vile' - referring to the Black Speech term.

In Quenya MAN- as a root means 'good', 'blessed' and, by extension 'holy spirit'.

For further possibilities context might make a difference.

1,005 posted on 09/09/2022 1:08:54 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: Gasshog
***Have you watched ROP yet?***

I forgot this part of your question. Yes, I watched the first two episodes. I noted some Elvish terms in passing. In Peter Jackson's LOTR trilogy, the Elvish Sindarin speech was supplied by David Salo, who wrote a book 'A Gateway to Sindarin', University of Utah Press, 2004. Whether Salo had any part in the Amazon productions I do not know. We had brief correspondence 18-20 years ago.

Incidentally, quickly checking his lexicons, I find his roots correspond with what I posted previously.

1,009 posted on 09/09/2022 1:24:26 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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