“ Calling in your back up. They are as trusted as far as you are”
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I don’t require back up. I’m a $hit kicker all by myself.
I’m sharing thoughts and ideas with people that like thoughts and ideas.
But apparently you prefer an Echo Chamber without disagreement or discussion.
I had a thought earlier today.
I wondered why seemingly only non-vaccinated anti-vax people know so many (almost always its 3 or more I even heard of 10 once) people in their family or close friends network that had severe vaccine reactions or died from a cause directly related to a vaccine.
Yet people vaccinated don’t seem to know anyone that had more than a sore arm or were tired the next day.
So this tells me that the anti-Vaxxers making these claims have such low creditability that even their own family ignores them. Their friends blow them off and get vaccinated anyway.
Or, it tells me that they are liars and will stop at nothing to advance their narrative and agenda.
So either those people making those claims are consider kooks by their own friends and family or they’re lying.
Which one is it do you think?
Which one is it do you think?
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Neither.
I had similar thoughts and did some prying among my circle, which is small, but includes people with large extended families and professional practices.
You have to dig a little. People tend to rationalize their own physical reactions. So they are fatigued, or losing weight without dieting or they had a blood clot or three or a heart attack they survived, but hey: they know (it turns out) another 4-7 people with similar conditions, so its *normal*. Same with sudden cancer or returning cancer or strokes. Sudden allergies that don’t respond to antihistamines or cortisone. Sudden chemical sensitivities. Sudden peripheral neuropathies. So many varied reactions over a relatively long time period and others experienced it, too, so that equates to *normal* and Dr Baffled reassures them it isn’t the injection. And besides, they all have had recurrent Covid, so it’s the virus at fault. But that’s common now and so, it too is normalized.
People die all the time, too. Not so many Before at such young ages and not so many in their sleep or during athletic performance, but “it happens”. If it’s anyone over 50, we are conditioned to see that as *aging* or lifestyle.
A lot of people are *suddenly* (my emphasis) experiencing chronic or sub-acute conditions. They tend to NOT discuss them because no wants to whine and it is boring.
There are a few technical points I’ve seen discussed elsewhere: chain of custody of vaccines that were administered in mass venues, temperature conditions that were so very emphasized at first and then were not discussed, tendency for vials to sit long enough to separate into layers (still unsure if the vials are to be shaken before administration), which would change the dose contents.
I just casually mentioned separately to 4 different people with large families and large social/professional circles that I knew no one who had had a severe reaction or died, but I’m old and a lot of my family is already gone or has been divided by the present circumstances and wouldn’t admit anything to _me_ or anyone unvaxxed. And everyone had a litany of examples. In fact, as they related what they knew, I could see an uneasiness as they admitted: there are a lot of people *suddenly* with *problems*. And I am a people-watcher, an observer: I could see them tamp down the uneasiness and dismiss it.
My personal belief, at the moment, is that there is a huge pool of such reactions just about to bubble into the collective consciousness. Actuaries don’t lie if they want to keep their jobs and the lawsuits are also just beginning. The UK is making payouts, maybe some other countries, too, but I haven’t investigated that, yet. The Israeli situation is _just_ becoming known to the world at large.
I think many folks are loathe to acknowledge they were injured. It opens barrels of worms no one wants to deal with.
Now it works.
Yet people vaccinated don’t seem to know anyone that had more than a sore arm or were tired the next day.
Yea, mudbloods have a hard time admitting how stupid they are. You should know this. And how the hell do you know what vaccinated people know or say anyway? Did you take a nationwide poll?
The more you talk, the more idiotic you come across, you dancing vax monkey.
Perhaps you should check out someone who is a true expert in the field and actually writes for the NIH.Time for a new perspective if you can handle it.
[Note to doctors I pinged: Scroll to bottom of post for my question]
Who is Mike Adams? Certainly not a scientist who can be trusted to adhere to scientific principles and ethics. In fact, he’s not a scientist at all. He’s self-described “journslist” and “activist”.
He’s better known as The Health Ranger, a king of woo, a rabid anti-vaxxer (in the old sense, before Covid), HIV/AIDS denier, and internet marketer extraordinaire:
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/quackery/mike-adams-building-alternate-reality-online
He’s also a dishonest fraudster and grifter, who doesn’t really care about your health or how much lead you ingest, so long as he’s raking in $:
https://cleanlabelproject.org/blog-post/addressing-mike-adams-the-fraud-ranger/
You can do your own internet search on him to see what you can see.
Somehow, “several embalmers” morphs into “numerous embalmers” in the next sentence. Hmm. How many is “numerous”? We’re not told. Why not? Is is five, fifteen, fifty? There are 23,000 licensed embalmers/funeral directors in this country. Why do we only hear from a precious few? Are they all too scared or all bought off by Big Pharma? And why do we only hear from them via vax doomer grifter blogs, the likes of Stew Peters, and other dodgy sources?
Enter Richard Hirschman, the same old Richard Hirschman we’ve seen before, over and over. Sorry to quote myself again, but these are typical postmortem “chicken fat clots”:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4038551/posts?page=21#21
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4070163/posts?page=12#12
Here are photos of postmortem chicken fat clots:
https://slidetodoc.com/presentation_image_h/36d75b20fdff1e42d1c9f99b5db46e9c/image-45.jpg
https://o.quizlet.com/whghq7WkPq85C.ftFeg-0w.png
From this web page:
https://quizlet.com/319905063/path-l56b-post-mortum-changes-and-non-lesions-edited-flash-cards/
Compare to the clots shown in the Hirschman videos:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tkpbmrOIPAqP/
Fair warning: When you click on these videos, you generate ad revenue for these grifters. Also keep in mind that Dr. Jane Ruby is not an MD, despite her glamor shots in white coat with stethoscope.
See? Chicken fat clots. Not only that, as clots that form in the living humans adhere to the vessel walls, how did he manage to just pull them out, all nice and smooth shiny like that? Hmm? How’d he do that? Clots all nice and smooth and that he describes as smooth, unlike antemortem clots. (If you did not already, you will have to click on the FR links I gave above to learn about the differences between antemortem and postmortem clots and that yes, chicken fat clots are rubbery!).
Chicken fat clots are found in the bodies of people who died from all sorts of causes, including drowning and fatal head injury.
Finally, what’s up with splashing his photos all over the internet? In some of the photos, you can see body parts. True, the face is not shown, so the person who died cannot be identified, but in the one showing the clot “the length of the entire leg”, the body appears to be that of an adult female. If my mother/sister/daughter had been embalmed in Alabama sometime in the past few years, I’d personally be pretty upset because that might be my loved one. Did he get the families’ permission to take these photos and publicize them?
Next up is Dr. Wade Hamilton, a pediatric cardiologist. According to Mike Adams’ website:
“Hamilton had stopped working at the hospital he was in since Jan. 1 as it required every staff member to get the COVID-19 vaccine. His license had also been attacked since questioning the shot, and he is now being forced to pay for a neuro-psychiatric test.”
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-05-16-3-doctors-suppressed-for-questioning-covid-vaccines.html
A quick internet search comes up empty on this for me, other than Adams’ site. Maybe one of you can find another source verifying the claims made at the link above.
Anyway, what does Dr. Hamilton say again?
“Wade Hamilton, a cardiologist who is familiar with clots, told The Epoch Times: “The fact that the magnesium, potassium, and iron are very low in the samples could suggest that they are not the usual post-mortem clots, that in fact there was no blood flow in these vessels. These structures raise but do not totally answer some interesting questions.”
“The combination of the low electrolytes and the novel very strong string-like structures suggests that these areas where the string-like structures are seen in the blood vessels did not receive circulation. They are not ‘normal’ post-mortem findings according to experienced embalmers bent on obtaining total body vascular access from one site, which because of the unusual ‘clots,’ they were unable to do,” he added.
Hmm. Yes, one might say a pediatric cardiologist is “familiar with clots” for sure, but what does he really know about about postmortem clots? He is not a Medical Examiner and has no training in forensic medicine or forensic science. What does he know about these clots other than what Adams and Hirschman fed him? While the neuropsychiatric test he was purportedly required to “pay for” according to Adams sounds Stalinesque, maybe it was required for good reason. Why is he risking his reputation by taking the word of the infamous Health Ranger and some embalmer from Podunk Alabama?
Next we meet embalmer Wallace Hooker who says ““At least 25 percent of what I was embalming ...”
Wait. Stop. “What” Gracie? “What” not “who”? A precious loved one is just a “what” to this guy? A hunk of meat? No way would I allow this man to touch a member of my family.
“Some embalmers are not being thorough embalmers. Many work for corporate firms that absolutely do not allow a cell phone in the embalming room. They do not allow photos to be taken, and it’s grounds for immediate dismissal. I’ve talked to these people that work for these firms,” he further stated.
Hello? Who wants photos of the bodies their loved ones photographed by some embalmer and sent via cell phone to who knows who? Possibly ending up on the internet or social media — or the darker recesses of the web. Sounds like these “corporate firms” have some pretty darn good rules.
The “totally healthy” 49-year-old who suddenly “collapsed dead” — how could he have been “totally healthy” if he had these horrible clots blocking blood flow, how could be have been “totally healthy”? Do these two-foot long clots suddenly and instantly form at some moment after vaccination? Maybe these huge killer clots are instantly formed as if by magic when Bill Gates activates those magnetic nanobots via 5G with his secret code (eye roll).
I just found this on Reddit where someone asked embalmers to comment on the Hirschman video. Sure, they are anonymous internet posters, but have a look at what they have to say:
Okay, that’s enough. I not going to bother with Sherri Tenpenny, poor li’l ol’ crazy thang. Seriously,”vaccines are creating “quantum entanglement” between those who take them and “the Google credit scores and the dematrix and all of those things” — ???
https://mobile.twitter.com/mcnees/status/1486922883842596866?lang=en
She sure needs that grift, though, and is charging her dupes plenty of $:
Sorry, carrying on about being a “Christian doctor” while grifting off her fellow man, scaring people unnecessarily and urging them to make bad decisions about their health for at least the past ten years disgusts me. Leave Our Lord out of it, lady. #WWJS
Maybe some of you who totally believe Hirschman and Adams would be willing to inquire at the funeral home used by your family. Ask what their embalmers have to say about these clots. Maybe you will believe them? After all, you entrust the bodies of your loved ones to them and therefore must deem them trustworthy.
By the way, anyone ever notice how none of these bloggers and vloggers ever give any time or ink/pixels to opposing views? Hardly fair and balanced. An impartial doctor or scientist in the field could easily debunk this stuff, so they never interview one. That’s why. It’s the way of clickbait grifters and propagandists. Do you really think these people have your best interests at heart? Yes, I know Fauci & Friends don’t, but that doesn’t mean this grifters do.
It seems very odd to me that a reputable doctor would say all these things, let alone to the likes of The Epoch Times or Mike Adams aka The Health Ranger (well-known kook and longtime anti-vaxxer and grifter pushing quackery) or whoever he supposedly talked with.
This “Dr. James Thorp, a maternal-fetal medicine expert,” seems legit. But what he says strikes me as rather strange for a doctor to say for several reasons. But I’m no doctor. Perhaps our doctors here can have a look and set me straight:
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“The COVID-19 vaccine diverts energy away from the physiologic processes in the body towards the production of the toxic spike protein. This directs energy away from the normal process of internal digestion also known as autophagy. This results in protein misfolding and propagation of large intravascular blood clots and also a variety of related diseases including prion disease, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, amyloidosis, and dementias including Alzheimer’s and others. While it is possible that COVID-19 illness in itself could potentially contribute to these diseases, it is unlikely and if so the effect of the vaccine would be 100 to a 1,000-fold greater than that of COVID-19 disease.” Thorp said.”
Epoch Times Photo Figure 1 Proper 3D conformation of a protein is dependent on available energy in the cellular milieu. Protein misfolding is more likely to occur during periods of impaired mitochondrial function and oxidative stress. (Courtesy of James Thorp) Hamilton added that: “Another possible explanation of the low electrolytes is that they have been taken up and bound to the toxin as part of a failed process to get rid of the ‘toxin,’ as when Vitamin B-12 is lowered in patients on anti-psychotic medications as the body attempts to get rid of the medication, bound to B-12 as a step in elimination. Every toxin has to be bound to an electrolyte to leave the body.”
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First, “process of internal digestion” seems a rather odd way of describing autophagy, but okay. Anyone who has done so much as a cursory study of diseases like Alzheimer’s, FTD, ALS, etc., knows that misfolded proteins are very much involved. I am more familiar with the pathogenesis of FTD and ALS (closely related; some researchers are beginning to suspect they are different forms of the same disease) than with the others because a loved one suffered from FTD.
Anyway, it’s true that autophagy plays an important role in the clearance of misfolded proteins:
https://www.nature.com/articles/emm2014117
What Dr. Thorp appears to be asserting is that the vaccines induce the production of spike proteins in such vast numbers that the immune cells involved in autophagy (I won’t go into the various types) are overwhelmed and cannot keep up, and that apparently they preferentially go after the spike proteins, leaving the misfolded proteins to go on to do their dirty work.
He says only the vaccine, not the disease itself would result in such and unhappy outcome. Therefore he must think the cells receiving the mRNA “instruction sheet” produce snippets of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in far greater numbers than cells hijacked by the virus produce copies of itself — a virus known for rapid replication (especially rapid, as I understand it, the Delta strain).
This seems illogical to me. As I understand it, the vaccines deliver a smallish amount of mRNA which instruct some of our cells to produce a smallish number of snippets of the virus’ spike protein (which, again as I understand it, has been rendered “harmless” as it does not include the “harmful” bit contained in the whole spike protein). Once these snippets of spike proteins have been produced, those cells destroy the mRNA and produce no more of these proteins (the fragile mRNA is degraded within days). Our immune cells then recognize the snippets of spike protein as “illegal immigrants” and “deport” them, so to speak, and having identified them once, add them to their “enemies list”. The snippets of spike protein are cleared from our bodies within weeks, according to numerous sources.
And yet this doctor seems to think the vaccines can cause you to develop diseases involving aggregation of misfolded proteins ranging from Mad Cow Disease to Alzheimer’s. Hello?
As for causing “intravascular coagulation”, okay, earlier studies called it DIC, but later ones say Covid-associated coagulopathy differs from DIC in several important respects. I’m not going to quibble over it. If he assumes the vaccines could cause coagulopathy via the same mechanisms as the virus itself, what is the basis of that assumption? It seems highly unlikely to me, but then again, I am no doctor:
https://thorax.bmj.com/content/76/4/412
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41569-021-00665-7
According to the information I have seen, Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia is caused only by the J&J and Astra Zeneca vaccines and only very rarely:
Diagnostic sheets for distinguishing VITT from DIC have been issued. I can see the link between these vaccines and DIC (adenovirus) but not the link between the mRNA vaccines and coagulopathy. I’m not sure where he’s getting that, but he’s a doctor and I’m not.
So where am I going wrong? Sorry to trouble you, and understand if you don’t have time to reply. I’m just curious and hoped to learn something here.
