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To: beancounter13

The USA will stand forever! There is no way that Texas would have left the Confederacy though.


91 posted on 07/18/2022 2:53:09 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up!)
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To: cowboyusa

I somehow do not share your optimistic view.

Every empire eventually falls, and it usually happens after the government becomes so corrupt it cannot stand and the people will no longer support it.


93 posted on 07/18/2022 2:55:51 PM PDT by beancounter13 (A Republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: cowboyusa; beancounter13

“The USA will stand forever!”
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I would love to agree with you, but I don’t. Here is why:

My paternal grandfather was born in Russia and left right after the Revolution. During the mid-50s, he, a brother and several Russian cousins and friends would get together to eat, play cards, drink some vodka and talk. On one of those occasions my then-late-teens father was there. One of the old guys mentioned how worried he was about the USSR defeating us, and my father said, “what are you worried about, America is the richest and most powerful country ever, America is forever.”

At that point my grandfather gave my father a withering look and said, “Listen to me, sonnyboy, nothing is forever. When I was 11 years old there was a celebration of the 300th anniversary of the Romanov dynasty. Understand that Russia was the largest country on Earth, with 11 time zones. My grandfather’s grandfather’s grandfather couldn’t have remembered a time before the czars. The Czar WAS forever…and 5 years later he was overthrown, and a year after that he and his whole family were murdered. NOTHING is forever.”

The same applies to the US. I love this country like few others, knowing very well how my grandparents on both sides were granted refuge here and, had they not been, they and their families would have been murdered. I am intensely aware that now there is now place of refuge that is even remotely like the US was a century ago - there is no place else to go. But as much as I love this country and want it to survive and prosper for centuries after I am gone, I am also a realistic student of history. The simple fact is that the PAC Americana is over, and we’ll be lucky to survive as an intact, reasonably unified nation. If our financial profligacy doesn’t do us in, our imperial overstretch and foreign policy arrogance will.


120 posted on 07/18/2022 6:42:59 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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