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To: achilles2000

“High-shcool level presentation” Uh-huh ...

Some context. This article is from 2019, but relevant to discussing the problem - Incoming: Can Aircraft Carriers Survive Hypersonic Weapons?

https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2019/3/22/incoming-can-aircraft-carriers-survive-hypersonic-weapons

And this article from AIRFORCE MAGAZINE, Jan. 19, 2022 puts a bit of a damper on your suppositions:
Hypersonic Defense - How Hypersonic Weapons Maneuver and What to do About it https://www.airforcemag.com/article/hypersonics-defense/

More articles on the subject.

Don’t believe the hype around Russia’s hypersonic Kinzhal missile - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSPoF7IIefU

The US May Mave Just Taken the Lead in Scramjet Hypersonic Missiles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vXJU3wADDU

Is America Really Losing the Hypersonic Arms Race?
https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/is-america-really-losing-the-hypersonic-arms-race/

AND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckrpVT5jS5Q

The Future is Hypersonic: An interview with Hermeus COO Skyler Shuford - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaz7wAHzOR4

The Groundbreaking Hypersonic Missiles America has in the Works https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/the-groundbreaking-hypersonic-missiles-america-has-in-the-works/

The Hypersonic Weapons Russia and China Have in Service -
https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/here-are-all-hypersonic-weapons-russia-and-china-have-in-service/

Too many posters on FR have adopted a “surrender / give-up” attitude so entrenched that it makes me wonder wether they are American or French.


70 posted on 07/14/2022 2:47:37 PM PDT by JME_FAN
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To: JME_FAN

Apparently, you don’t have the background to evaluate technology. But some facts are simple. We are behind in this area. It doesn’t matter in the near term, which is what this war is about, that we may possibly catch up and eventually move ahead some bright, shiny day. We have nothing now in this space that is remotely functional, and there is little if anything that can be done to defend against tactical hypersonic missiles at this time. That isn’t defeatism; it is just the current situation. What we don’t need is a “Rah! Rah! USA is #1!” Pollyannaish stupidity. We also don’t need article from the MIC, and its dependents, telling us “Don’t worry, be happy!”. The Russians spend a fraction of what we do on defense, and frankly it’s embarrassing that our system is so corrupt that the Russians have caught up in most areas and have surpassed us in a few. We probably spend more on “Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion” across all the services than we do on on hypersonic research.

But let us return to the point of yours that I challenged initially; namely, that the Russians are primitive, stupid, louts incapable achieving much technologically. The hypersonic missile issue was an illustration of why we can’t be dismissive of the Russians. If you knew anything about the history of science and engineering, let alone of the fine arts, you would know that Russia has made major contributions.


72 posted on 07/14/2022 4:17:27 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: JME_FAN; All

Apparently, you don’t have the background to evaluate technology. But some facts are simple. We are behind in this area. It doesn’t matter in the near term, which is what this war is about, that we may possibly catch up and eventually move ahead some bright, shiny day. We have nothing now in this space that is remotely functional, and there is little if anything that can be done to defend against tactical hypersonic missiles at this time. That isn’t defeatism; it is just the current situation. What we don’t need is a “Rah! Rah! USA is #1!” Pollyannaish stupidity. We also don’t need article from the MIC, and its dependents, telling us “Don’t worry, be happy!”. The Russians spend a fraction of what we do on defense, and frankly it’s embarrassing that our system is so corrupt that the Russians have caught up in most areas and have surpassed us in a few. We probably spend more on “Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion” across all the services than we do on on hypersonic research.

But let us return to the point of yours that I challenged initially; namely, that the Russians are primitive, stupid, louts incapable achieving much technologically. The hypersonic missile issue was an illustration of why we can’t be dismissive of the Russians. If you knew anything about the history of science and engineering, let alone of the fine arts, you would know that Russia has made major contributions.


73 posted on 07/14/2022 4:17:59 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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