“It’s very convenient for some to claim they aren’t against all vaccines, just this vaccine.”
Can you cite any post where someone has railed against a specific vaccine, say small pox, for instance, other than covid?
“Their comments on FR indicate they are against ‘big pharma’ and believe the medical establishment is in a conspiracy to ruin the health of millions.”
No, the complaint has always been about big pharma rigging the system for money. It is only with the covid vaccine that the conspiracy to ruin the health of millions got started.
“It’s very difficult to believe those claims and still claim you’re not and anti-vaxxer.””
It is not for me since I, and most of us, have had numerous vaccines. That is just an assumption that you pulled out of your ass.
odawg wrote: “Can you cite any post where someone has railed against a specific vaccine, say small pox, for instance, other than covid?”
You can find multiple posts/posters who refuse any/all vaccines.
odawg wrote: “No, the complaint has always been about big pharma rigging the system for money. It is only with the covid vaccine that the conspiracy to ruin the health of millions got started.”
So, you admit your belief in a conspiracy to use vaccines to ruin the health of millions while insisting you’re not ‘anti-vaxxer’? BTW, your anti-vaxxer heroes are making millions off their anti-vaxxer hysteria. Malone, for example, has a newsletter with approximately 136,00 paid subscriptions at a price of $60 per year. Do the math. Mercola is making millions off of his ‘natural remedies’ while being one of the largest sources of vaccine misinformation.
“It is not for me since I, and most of us, have had numerous vaccines. That is just an assumption that you pulled out of your ass.”
Your personal history isn’t valid proof that ‘most’ have had numerous vaccines. There are multiple posters who have proudly claimed that they refuse all vaccines for themselves and their families.
... most of us, have had numerous vaccines.
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We did, but that was in the past, with known technology.
I’ve had fewer than many, being a member of the Silent Generation. I remember when diphtheria vaccine was a miracle and separate from tetanus and there was nothing for pertussis, which I had/resolved.
The old smallpox vaccine has been shown to have had side effects we never heard about. Same with at least one of the injected polio vaccines, IIRC. Pertussis vaccine has ben ubiquitous for decades, yet my small town had several outbreaks among the vaccinated over the 1990-2010 time period. I was told it was a milder version of the original disease we encountered 75 years ago. I’ve read about diphtheria but have never heard of a case in the US.
They combined DPT because no one was getting the tetanus shot unless they had a puncture wound and the companies were eager to sell more of it.
My generation experienced the childhood diseases and recovered, for the most part. Now we have had 2 generations injected with countless vaccines and people seem to catch flu more often even with a yearly flu vaccine. I never even heard of Shingles being so prevalent until very recently and not necessarily in the elderly.
Now, however, I read that all the vaccines are being changed
to mRNA or actual DNA technology. Once bitten, as they say.
I am now leery of vaccines. I need to add that I have physicians and APRNs in my family and am friends with some, as well. They are simply not as sanguine on this topic as they once were, but they couch their own reservations obliquely and in private.
In addition, I have experienced and witnessed and been told of reactions to more than a few of the ubiquitous medications taken by many. People confide, usually sotto voce, that they have quit all prescribed meds or cut the dosage on their own and they feel better for having done so, over time. Everyone knows the risks with OTC NSAIDS, with opiates, and even vitamins and minerals if they aren’t in balance with each other.
I’d venture to say, that the *anti-vaxxer* epithet is a social intervention to counter this quiet rejection by the populace. No one wants to be called names, so they just shut up and walk away from the offered concoctions. Parents are withdrawing kids from school for a variety of reasons, young people are reconsidering college for a variety of reasons, I hear of people rejecting job offers because of vaxx requirements.....if fewer people participate in the institutions where a vax record is required, fewer will be vaxxed, so trends must be apparent.
Just speculating, but given the contexts, decibel level and intensity with which *anti-vaxxer* is applied, could it be that the *pro-vaccine* contingent is actually the minority? Or at least that the trend is in that direction and the affected purveying industry is more than a bit panicked?