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To: cherry; little jeremiah; meadsjn; LittleLinda
All four of you have raised a question that keeps me up at night. I even hesitate to state it openly. Are the American people ready for self-government?

We're talking about the suspension of the Constitution for a long period, perhaps years. What would America under military rule look like? How would people's lives change? Having tasted power, would the military even want to give up rule? History doesn't have a great track record on that one.

In stating the question, I realize I sound like so-called "revolutionary vanguards" throughout history. Lenin, Hitler, Mao and others thought they could rule better than the people. Monarchs throughout history thought the same.

Chapter 2 of Decision in Philadelphia: The Constitutional Convention of 1787 by Christopher Collier and James Lincoln Collier lays out the socio-economic conditions of 1787 America. We look little like the nation that fought for its independence and wrote the Constitution. We've become more like the Europe our ancestors fled.

There is a line from the Vietnam War that echoes: "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." Are we talking about the same thing here? What will be the long-term consequences?

190 posted on 04/28/2022 2:57:54 PM PDT by Publius (It wasn't easy being a young conservative. It's easier being an old conservative.)
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To: Publius

the question you’re asking...is whether or not Fed.gov exists to serve THESE United States.....or do THE United States exist to service Fed.gov......


206 posted on 04/28/2022 3:41:51 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: Publius
All four of you have raised a question that keeps me up at night. I even hesitate to state it openly. Are the American people ready for self-government? We're talking about the suspension of the Constitution for a long period, perhaps years. What would America under military rule look like? How would people's lives change? Having tasted power, would the military even want to give up rule? History doesn't have a great track record on that one.

With a leader such as Donald Trump, the American people will be fine under self government..This is how it should be. From what I understand of Kash Patels Devolution, military command would last only as long as it took to begin elections once again. Unless it lasted for years on end, I do not see the Generals unable to release control, they would come in only to return power to the people.

In stating the question, I realize I sound like so-called "revolutionary vanguards" throughout history. Lenin, Hitler, Mao and others thought they could rule better than the people. Monarchs throughout history thought the same.

I agree, however, I think President Trump is in this for the long haul, I think we will be led by him, and I do not think he is an Oligarch.

Chapter 2 of Decision in Philadelphia: The Constitutional Convention of 1787 by Christopher Collier and James Lincoln Collier lays out the socio-economic conditions of 1787 America. We look little like the nation that fought for its independence and wrote the Constitution. We've become more like the Europe our ancestors fled.

I agree and disagree. “We” are not all awake, true enough, but there is a faction that is, and rejects the concept of a ruler.

There is a line from the Vietnam War that echoes: "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." Are we talking about the same thing here? What will be the long-term consequences?

I don’t know. This is a whole other subject. I do know that we are gonna go through a bunch of stuff to wake us up…according to Q.

227 posted on 04/28/2022 4:22:08 PM PDT by KittenClaws ("There is no 1502 Johnson" ~ Joan Hamilton)
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To: Publius; meadsjn; LittleLinda

I don’t see military rule for very long at all. Also I don’t see suspension of Constitution at all; unless you mean a short military intervention; if that happens in a manner with military rule.

People don’t rule. They vote for leaders. People “ruling” is mob rule, which is not only rotten, but always seems to usher in tyranny.

Q had a plan, and I think it is still in play, still working, and before the midterms we will see some serious action that will dispell all doubts as to what is happening.


234 posted on 04/28/2022 4:38:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Don't worry about anything. Worry has never solved any problem or moved any stone. )
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To: Publius
you bring up some great points...

no matter what direction, they all are scary...

but things can not remain as they are....many of us will be crucified economically, socially, etc.....we don't stand a chance...

and if we don't stand a chance, our kids and grand kids don't either....

between basically a mafia govt and a military govt, I'd go with the military....for now....

251 posted on 04/28/2022 5:31:03 PM PDT by cherry (;)
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To: Publius
We look little like the nation that fought for its independence and wrote the Constitution. We've become more like the Europe our ancestors fled.

Agreed. 21st Century Americans bear no resemblance to the "Moral and religious" people for whom the Constitution was designed.

714 posted on 05/01/2022 10:36:42 AM PDT by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish)
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