Like with the Spanish Civil War, (an earlier superpower proxy war), a lot of new weapons are being tested in wartime conditions.
Those cheering the demise of the Moskva should consider the future survivability of our own CVN battle groups within a thousand or more miles of China, just for example. We might wake up to the news that one has been hit by Chinese missiles and is on fire in the not distant future. (Or hit by Russian or Iranian missiles, in slightly different circumstances.)
For students of history, here was another major naval paradigm shift that probably fewer than one in 100 has ever heard of:
“The WW2 Sinking of Two Mighty Warships – HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse”
This.
He should have known they needed air support.
Pearl Harbor happened before he sent them out, and successful air attacks on the Italian navy.
At the moment, the Chinese do not need to destroy our navy. They have captured the Presidency and much of the ruling class...
“For students of history, here was another major naval paradigm shift that probably fewer than one in 100 has ever heard of:”
Well, consider me “one of the few.” Churchill wrote about this fight, as well as others. With the loss of those two ships, there remained no Western capital ships asea in the Indian or Pacific Oceans in mid-December, 1941, aside from surviving American ships that were headed back to the US west coast from Pearl Harbor. Japan reigned supreme on the sea for the next few months.
While I can feel sympathy with any individual crewman on a burning ship, I don’t have any qualms about experiencing a grim satisfaction about a missile hit on a Russian warship supporting an invasion.
And that said, I have little affection for Ukraine.
Those cheering the demise of the Moskva should consider the future survivability of our own CVN battle groups within a thousand or more miles of China, just for example.
***Yup. I’ve been sayin’ that kind of thing for a long time now.
from my home page
Here is my swag on what is going to happen in Taiwan, posted on an earlier thread,
‘China Rapidly Modernizes for War With U.S..
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285398/posts
“Like with the Spanish Civil War, (an earlier superpower proxy war), a lot of new weapons are being tested in wartime conditions.”
Except that there is only one proxy in this one Ukraine, Russia is directly involved.
Spanish Civil War involved the Popular Front ( also called Republicans) made up of a diverse group of left leaning factions (left leaning does not do some of them justice) against the Nationalist’s much less diverse. Stalin was in my opinion willing to lose the war (which did happen) if his proxy party would not be in total control versus Trotskyite, anarchist and other groups. The Germans and Italians did learn some lessons, but maybe their success got masked by Stalin’s obsession and the fact that Franco was not a half bad General/Leader. Not taking up for him you just have to recognize things.
Those cheering the demise of the Moskva should consider the future survivability of our own CVN battle groups within a thousand or more miles of China, just for example. We might wake up to the news that one has been hit by Chinese missiles and is on fire in the not distant future. (Or hit by Russian or Iranian missiles, in slightly different circumstances.)
True. Which is exactly why it is not wise to project weakness in the face of Russian mass murder and genocidal tactics in Ukraine. A firm hand is needed here lest the Chicoms or Iranians think they have a free shot at the US.