Posted on 04/13/2022 1:27:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin
“The cruiser Moskva has just been hit by 2 Neptune missiles. It is standing, burning. And there is a storm at sea. Tactical flooding is required, apparently,” he wrote.
Earlier, the Ukrainian military damaged the Russian frigate Admiral Essen.
As Ukrainian News Agency reported, on April 4, Russia reduced the activity of warships in the Black Sea due to a storm.
(Excerpt) Read more at ukranews.com ...
I’m a Yankee and I use an excavator to stack my burn piles. 13 hours we call a campfire.
“For students of history, here was another major naval paradigm shift that probably fewer than one in 100 has ever heard of:”
Well, consider me “one of the few.” Churchill wrote about this fight, as well as others. With the loss of those two ships, there remained no Western capital ships asea in the Indian or Pacific Oceans in mid-December, 1941, aside from surviving American ships that were headed back to the US west coast from Pearl Harbor. Japan reigned supreme on the sea for the next few months.
I may be on a number of lists...
While I can feel sympathy with any individual crewman on a burning ship, I don’t have any qualms about experiencing a grim satisfaction about a missile hit on a Russian warship supporting an invasion.
And that said, I have little affection for Ukraine.
Freepers are an extraordinary bunch of people. A very high percentage of INTJ types.
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Lol, that was my post. It was sarcasm directed at Forbes, which I dislike.
Naturally, this is FR, already making us one in a 100.
But the general voting population? More like one in 10,000.
IOW, what we know about history is not moving the needle an angstrom unit.
We might as well be students of ancient Sanskrit literature, for what it means to today’s events.
Funny, but as I have seen numerous videos of Ukrainian villages, I find the architecture and layout amazingly similar to northern Wisconsin.
Fairly similar weather, I guess, lots of dairy farms in Ukraine, I am told.
Strange how it builds empathy.
Keep that in mind when it is a USN CVN carrier on fire halfway between Guam and Taiwan.
If you don’t see that coming next ....what can I say....
Forbes is doubtful:
If true this gives the Russians plentiful motivation to take Odessa and the rest of Southwest Ukraine.
A sad state of affairs, but probably true.
There has been a deliberate dumbing down.
I was very fortunate to grow up where I did, when I did.
Strange, it seems exactly the opposite to me.
If true, it raises serious questions about their ability to do so.
Yeah, me too. I just don’t care any more. They’re going to take it all away soon anyway.
History is fun. I have always liked history. I’ve been reading history since I was a little kid. My university undergraduate degree is in history (and among my professors were historian Stephen Ambrose, and former senator George McGovern; the latter was interesting, though I disagreed with his politics, and even told him so: I still got an A).
I have several thousand volumes of books in my house, and probably half of them are works on history. Even at that, I go to the local library weekly and pick up something interesting to read (I’ve been doing that pretty much regularly since I was 12; even when I was in the Air Force I’d go to the base libraries).
Reading is my greatest pleasure. I have an old sweatshirt that says: “So Many Books; so Little Time.”
Those cheering the demise of the Moskva should consider the future survivability of our own CVN battle groups within a thousand or more miles of China, just for example.
***Yup. I’ve been sayin’ that kind of thing for a long time now.
from my home page
Here is my swag on what is going to happen in Taiwan, posted on an earlier thread,
‘China Rapidly Modernizes for War With U.S..
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285398/posts
Does Ukraine still have border guards on Snake Island? I thought they were all captured by the Russians?
Obviously, skepticism is in order. It would certainly be a significant accomplishment and have an impact on the Black Sea Fleet.
I like that !
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