| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Post Covid 'Vaccination' Adverse Events Through Through 03/25/2022 (more specific statistics now available) 74% of all post vax deaths in VAERS 30+ year history are for Covid 'vaccines', semimojo wrote: |
| So by your reasoning, Covid 'vaccines' could never, by definition, ever actually have an inordinate amount of deaths and disability as reported by FReepers and those doctors who don't conform to the dictates of the CDC. That’s a…curious…misstatement of my position. Of course the vaccines could conceivably cause death and disability. VAERS certainly isn’t going to be the vehicle to demonstrate it but a well designed study could. I just ask to see some evidence not based on anecdotes. As I said, If you think the vaccine is causing problems all you need do is show the incidence of heart attack, stroke, death, etc. is higher in the vaccinated than in a demographically similar population of unvaccinated. In response to this simple statement you post huge volumes of the stale misrepresentation of adverse events and anecdotes from Kirsch, Malone and numerous other grifters who have made an industry out of exploiting this anti-vax delusion. In that entire wall of words there is no mention of the relative incidence of adverse events in the vaccinated vs. unvaccinated. You should really ask yourself, why? |
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"As I said, If you think the vaccine is causing problems all you need do is show the incidence of heart attack, stroke, death, etc. is higher in the vaccinated than in a demographically similar population of unvaccinated."
There are numerous ways to scientifically prove the 'vaccines' are killing people - why is it you cling to one sceneario for dear life (ANSWER: THere's no formal study specific to your needs - the CDC/NIH would never allow the comparison you pretend is the only way to answer the question).
Why must everyone explain the obvious to you? Over and over and over again? Obviously, those in VAERS prior to Covid 'vaccine' administration did not receive the Covid 'vaccine'. Years and years of flu vaccine patients did NOT receive the Covid 'vaccine' - there were never death/stroke/paralysis/heart attack/blood clot spikes until the Covid 'vaccine' rollout.. The general public , up until the Covid 'vaccine' administration, did not recieve the Covid Vax and that is why the lethal effects of the Covid 'vaccine' are obvious and unprecedented.
It's not over reporting of Covid 'vaccines' - that's a story you made up with zero basis in fact. You have no facts to support your accusation of over reporting - NONE - so over reporting is not a valid excuse for the unprecedented levels of death and suffering caused by Covid 'vaccines.'
From the start, the burden of proof was on the CDC/NIH and their minions, but they've always censored researchers/physicians while simultaneously demanding scientific proof from the general public. Don't swagger about 'proof' since you, and they don't have the required proof yourselves:
"Previous attempts to develop an mRNA-based drug using lipid nanoparticles failed and had to be abandoned because when the dose was too low, the drug had no effect, and when dosed too high, the drug became too toxic. An obvious question is: What has changed that now makes this technology safe enough for mass use?" ~ Dr. Joseph Mercola
I'll save anyone the time needed to research that - all the lipid nanoparticle research failed across the board for decades and then they made the Covid vaccines.
Just a few examples from Steve Kirsch's ACIP report you pretend doesn't exist - scientific proof that the vaccines do not reduce death, but instead do the opposite:
- The “real world” fatality data from VAERS does not match the fatality data from the (Covid) Phase 3 trials..... Even Pfizer’s own 6 month study failed to show any evidence of a net mortality benefit either before or after unblinding (at the end, 20 people who got the vaccine died vs. 14 people who got the placebo). And all three vaccines showed they significantly increase morbidity (highly statistically significant for all vaccines).
- .... Arguing about myocarditis cases and morbidity trade offs like they do at the ACIP meeting is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. We have never had a vaccine in recent history that has killed 150,000 Americans. The H1N1 vaccine was stopped in 1976 after killing around 32 people. Today, we ignore all these deaths, writing them all off to “bad luck.”
- None of the COVID vaccines reduce all-cause morbidity. It’s the opposite: they all significantly increase all-cause morbidity by as much as 4.2 times baseline (p<=0.00001). The CDC must know this since this information is hiding in plain sight in the published literature.
Here's the work of Mathew Crawford, whom no one at the CDC will acknowledge exists either:
Defining Away Vaccine Safety Signals, Part 3
The Chloroquine Wars Part LXI
The CDC and associated regulatory agencies seem to be intentionally hiding signals of dramatic vaccine risk, then reporting numbers on two sides of risk-benefit analyses that are tallied by extremely different criteria to engineer an impression that the COVID-19 vaccines are "safe and effective". This alone should be reason enough to halt and re-evaluate the mass vaccination program using experimental vaccine technologies.
For those unfamiliar with the context, please refer to Part 1 and Part 2. I wrote the first article naive to the topic, but it is noteworthy that I have since conversed with numerous experts in and around the pharmacovigilance research community and every single one of them confirmed my conclusions.
In case you're incapable of following the implications in Crawford's work - the 'risks' that the pharmas and CDC/NIH/YOU hide demonstrate yet again a comparison between not taking the vax, and taking the vax.
“How do you explain how Peter Schirmacher one of the world’s top pathologists finds 30% to 40% death rate after vaccination while the CDC hasn’t found any deaths?” ~ Steve Kirsch, ACIP
VAERS is under reporting (see below) and it's still showing off the charts deaths/harm for Covid 'vaccines' in comparison to all other patients in VAERS who did not receive the Covid 'vaccine'.
"Here’s the slide from the Pfizer presentation at the October 26, 2021 VRBPAC meeting. This slide shows, without a doubt, that VAERS is underreporting myocarditis cases by at least a factor of 5 since Optum healthcare reported 106 events compared to the 22 events from VAERS (while this is only a ratio of 4.8, none of these healthcare databases are fully reported so I rounded up to at least 5).
As I’ve said before, VAERS is underreported by more than 41 based on the using the CDC methodology, but that would require you to replicate my work on this which would take time. To prove a more modest claim that it’s at least 5X under reported, you just look at Pfizer’s slide and compare 22 (VAERS) with 106 (Optum Healthcare):" ~ Steve Kirsch, Dr. Paul Offit is lying to us about myocarditis rates (substack.com)
Since you can't prove VAERS is over reported - how do you explain the off the charts level of deaths for those vaccines? Let's see some scientific proof, stat!
How about we compare the physicians' patients pre/post catastrophic Covid 'vaccine' as comparisons?
"One of the nation’s top neurologists (she’s listed in US News & World Report) told us she had significant events for 2,000 patients that should have been reported in VAERS and got so frustrated with the time commitment after making just 2 VAERS reports she stopped doing it. Note that she believed she was NOT required by law to report it, only the person who did the vaccination is. So she reported just 2 in 2,000 events. I asked her how many VAERS reports she’s posted in the past 11 years of her practice. She said zero. When I asked her why, she said, “Because there was nothing to report.”
Dr. Bradley Campell started looking at the bloodwork of his patients pre- and post-jab. Watch this video at 35:30 where he describes a patient whose troponin levels were 26 times normal after the jab. Was this a fluke? It appears not.
On Sept 3, I called Peter McCullough after I heard this. He’s currently treating a patient for myocarditis who has had troponin levels that have been ranging between 35 and 50 over the past 2 months since vaccination. He points out that normal is <.05 and a heart attack is 1 to 4. He’s never seen anything like this in his career." ~Steve Kirsch, ACIP
There are comparisons of elevated deaths and illnesses - see Steve Kirsch or Dr Josh Guetzkow discuss COVID-19 vaccine adverse events – America's Frontline Doctors (americasfrontlinedoctors.org)
You know, run along and ignore everything written that the CDC denies, and claim without evidence that Covid 'vaccines' are safe and effective.
