Posted on 04/07/2022 9:38:10 PM PDT by ransomnote
Aug 1st last year, I downloaded all years of vaers data.
Using just the year and file size, the spike of 2020-2021 stood out markedly from the decades before on a bar chart.
I realize that wasn’t scientific at all, but does show that reporting was way up.
Hi Ransomnote,
For over a year, I’ve been on your PING lists that cover anything regarding these usage of these vaccinations and their effectivenesses of preventing - or minimizing - the effects of a disease. It has been “officially” reported that the first known case of Covid-19 was 28 months ago.
I am fascinated by the HUGE differences between your FreeReplublic readers’ thoughts, beliefs, questions about not only the effectiveness vs. the potential harm - depending on volunteering or refusing these vaccinations. The PINGS I chose to read concentrate more on the vaccinations, not the disease. As I try to understand your readers’ comments, I feel we do NOT have reliable answers to the following questions:
If a patient already has underlining health issues, is it better to get - or not get - vaccinated?
As I write this, research on these are being currently performed on 4 variants of the disease, and 3 different vaccines. Which vaccine is ideal for me? Or you? Is a new variant on its way, requiring a new experimental vaccine?
I recall that both my spouse and I suddenly felt slightly ill in January, 2020. It lasted 24 hours. Did we have Covid? If yes, is it possible we are now immune to some - or all future variants - of Covid?
Is it time for Kennedy’s book, published 2021, to be updated?
How serious will Covid or vaccine side-effects - compare to other “catastrophes”, like 1941’s Pearl Harbor and 911 attacks?
What are the long term effects of getting - or not getting - the vaccine?
Do the answers to the above apply to every individual?
How reliable, current and thorough are these reports - CDC and others - on the seriousness of Covid and effectiveness of each vaccine?
How long do we have to wait to get the answers?
D&D
ransomnote :" ..The deaths and adverse vents most frequently occur within the first 2 weeks post Covid 'vaccine' which is demonstrated in the charts above,
so the first 15 minutes isn't an indication of any sort of safety monitoring."
" At 50 deaths, a product would normally get a black box warning in advertisements and printed materials, but within 1 month,
the Covid 'vaccines' had over 1000 and climbing, and the CDC never said a word about it."
" Covid 'vaccines have thousands and thousands of reports of death post vax but any other vax would have been pulled in the low 200's."..
Here's an example of one of his reports:
VAERS IS MONTHS BEHIND PUBLISHING DATA AND CAUGHT DELETING DATA AS ALWAYS! 05/26/2021 [4863 Deaths following 'vaccination' as of May 24]
bitchute.com ^ | May 26, 2021 | WelcomeTheEagle88
Thanks for the ping...
It’s worse than I imagined.
The more my doctors pushed the bad in light of the first news of consequences the stronger my resolve to resist...last few visits they stopped even asking.
They fired staff for not taking boosters...even though one young lady had come down with COVID before taking any shot. Sad but safe for her.
No, you post evidence that there have been more reports to VAERS than for previous vaccines. A fact that no one disputes (as far as I know).
What you also know, but don’t admit, is that there are perfectly reasonable explanations for this that don’t involve dangerous vaccines.
We’ve given over half a billion Covid shots in the US in a little over a year. A vaccine that’s novel, extremely highly publicized, and has been made controversial. One that has no analog in the age of VAERS.
It’s to be expected that there will be more reports of adverse events. It stands to reason that someone experiencing a coronary or neurological event weeks after a Covid shot would be more likely to associate that event to the shot than if they had gotten a flu or tetanus vaccine, for example.
I say you know this because a) you’ve been told many times; b) you’ve been provided multiple links to the official statements of the CDC, which created and provides VAERS; and c) I notice you studiously avoid directly saying that events reported to VAERS are necessarily the result of the vaccine. You just allow insinuation to do the work of misinforming fellow FReepers as you did in the sentence I quoted above.
This really isn’t complicated. If you think the vaccine is causing problems all you need do is show the incidence of heart attack, stroke, death, etc. is higher in the vaccinated than in a demographically similar population of unvaccinated.
This is the obvious way to move past anecdotes yet I’ve never anyone post any evidence of this.
The closest I’ve seen is misrepresentations of Covid statistics, such as some Scottish ones in The Expose, that fail to correct for demographic and other biases. Biases that the providers of the data explicitly say need to be adjusted for.
No one denies VAERS data exist, but many knowingly misrepresent what it means.
biden proved the kung flu is a scam when he disbanded trump’s “operation warp speed”, opened our southern border, and spread over 2,000,000 nondocumented unvaccinated invaders across our country during a supposed “global pandemic” while anthony fauci, the cdc, the nih, the world health organization, the enemedia, hollywierd, and the majority of our elected representatives sit back and watch...
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Post Covid 'Vaccination' Adverse Events Through Through 03/25/2022 (more specific statistics now available) 74% of all post vax deaths in VAERS 30+ year history are for Covid 'vaccines', semimojo wrote: |
ransomnote: I post proof that no vaccine has anywhere near the number of heart attacks, strokes, deaths etc. and has exceeded all other vaccines in sheer devastation. |
Thanks for the ping.
That’s a…curious…misstatement of my position. Of course the vaccines could conceivably cause death and disability.
VAERS certainly isn’t going to be the vehicle to demonstrate it but a well designed study could. I just ask to see some evidence not based on anecdotes.
As I said, If you think the vaccine is causing problems all you need do is show the incidence of heart attack, stroke, death, etc. is higher in the vaccinated than in a demographically similar population of unvaccinated.
In response to this simple statement you post huge volumes of the stale misrepresentation of adverse events and anecdotes from Kirsch, Malone and numerous other grifters who have made an industry out of exploiting this anti-vax delusion.
In that entire wall of words there is no mention of the relative incidence of adverse events in the vaccinated vs. unvaccinated.
You should really ask yourself, why?
He must be crushed like the bug that he is, and you did a great job.
Do Dugway Vax next.
Ransomnote, good responses.
I just checked WHO’s adverse event database for the Covid shot and it is up to 3566757 reports now. A whopping 40% of those are aged 18-44, another 30% between 45-64.
Over 65 is 15%
The argument that it is elderly with pre-existing conditions that are experiencing most of the adverse events is false.
All of the COVID deaths I’ve personally known were elderly; above 65.
Most of the COVID vaccine deaths were young people. A few were elderly.
Excellent excellent analysis !!!
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| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Post Covid 'Vaccination' Adverse Events Through Through 03/25/2022 (more specific statistics now available) 74% of all post vax deaths in VAERS 30+ year history are for Covid 'vaccines', semimojo wrote: |
| So by your reasoning, Covid 'vaccines' could never, by definition, ever actually have an inordinate amount of deaths and disability as reported by FReepers and those doctors who don't conform to the dictates of the CDC. That’s a…curious…misstatement of my position. Of course the vaccines could conceivably cause death and disability. VAERS certainly isn’t going to be the vehicle to demonstrate it but a well designed study could. I just ask to see some evidence not based on anecdotes. As I said, If you think the vaccine is causing problems all you need do is show the incidence of heart attack, stroke, death, etc. is higher in the vaccinated than in a demographically similar population of unvaccinated. In response to this simple statement you post huge volumes of the stale misrepresentation of adverse events and anecdotes from Kirsch, Malone and numerous other grifters who have made an industry out of exploiting this anti-vax delusion. In that entire wall of words there is no mention of the relative incidence of adverse events in the vaccinated vs. unvaccinated. You should really ask yourself, why? |
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"As I said, If you think the vaccine is causing problems all you need do is show the incidence of heart attack, stroke, death, etc. is higher in the vaccinated than in a demographically similar population of unvaccinated."
There are numerous ways to scientifically prove the 'vaccines' are killing people - why is it you cling to one sceneario for dear life (ANSWER: THere's no formal study specific to your needs - the CDC/NIH would never allow the comparison you pretend is the only way to answer the question).
Why must everyone explain the obvious to you? Over and over and over again? Obviously, those in VAERS prior to Covid 'vaccine' administration did not receive the Covid 'vaccine'. Years and years of flu vaccine patients did NOT receive the Covid 'vaccine' - there were never death/stroke/paralysis/heart attack/blood clot spikes until the Covid 'vaccine' rollout.. The general public , up until the Covid 'vaccine' administration, did not recieve the Covid Vax and that is why the lethal effects of the Covid 'vaccine' are obvious and unprecedented.
It's not over reporting of Covid 'vaccines' - that's a story you made up with zero basis in fact. You have no facts to support your accusation of over reporting - NONE - so over reporting is not a valid excuse for the unprecedented levels of death and suffering caused by Covid 'vaccines.'
From the start, the burden of proof was on the CDC/NIH and their minions, but they've always censored researchers/physicians while simultaneously demanding scientific proof from the general public. Don't swagger about 'proof' since you, and they don't have the required proof yourselves:
"Previous attempts to develop an mRNA-based drug using lipid nanoparticles failed and had to be abandoned because when the dose was too low, the drug had no effect, and when dosed too high, the drug became too toxic. An obvious question is: What has changed that now makes this technology safe enough for mass use?" ~ Dr. Joseph Mercola
I'll save anyone the time needed to research that - all the lipid nanoparticle research failed across the board for decades and then they made the Covid vaccines.
Just a few examples from Steve Kirsch's ACIP report you pretend doesn't exist - scientific proof that the vaccines do not reduce death, but instead do the opposite:
Here's the work of Mathew Crawford, whom no one at the CDC will acknowledge exists either:
Defining Away Vaccine Safety Signals, Part 3
The Chloroquine Wars Part LXI
The CDC and associated regulatory agencies seem to be intentionally hiding signals of dramatic vaccine risk, then reporting numbers on two sides of risk-benefit analyses that are tallied by extremely different criteria to engineer an impression that the COVID-19 vaccines are "safe and effective". This alone should be reason enough to halt and re-evaluate the mass vaccination program using experimental vaccine technologies.
For those unfamiliar with the context, please refer to Part 1 and Part 2. I wrote the first article naive to the topic, but it is noteworthy that I have since conversed with numerous experts in and around the pharmacovigilance research community and every single one of them confirmed my conclusions.
In case you're incapable of following the implications in Crawford's work - the 'risks' that the pharmas and CDC/NIH/YOU hide demonstrate yet again a comparison between not taking the vax, and taking the vax.
“How do you explain how Peter Schirmacher one of the world’s top pathologists finds 30% to 40% death rate after vaccination while the CDC hasn’t found any deaths?” ~ Steve Kirsch, ACIP
VAERS is under reporting (see below) and it's still showing off the charts deaths/harm for Covid 'vaccines' in comparison to all other patients in VAERS who did not receive the Covid 'vaccine'.
"Here’s the slide from the Pfizer presentation at the October 26, 2021 VRBPAC meeting. This slide shows, without a doubt, that VAERS is underreporting myocarditis cases by at least a factor of 5 since Optum healthcare reported 106 events compared to the 22 events from VAERS (while this is only a ratio of 4.8, none of these healthcare databases are fully reported so I rounded up to at least 5).
As I’ve said before, VAERS is underreported by more than 41 based on the using the CDC methodology, but that would require you to replicate my work on this which would take time. To prove a more modest claim that it’s at least 5X under reported, you just look at Pfizer’s slide and compare 22 (VAERS) with 106 (Optum Healthcare):" ~ Steve Kirsch, Dr. Paul Offit is lying to us about myocarditis rates (substack.com)
Since you can't prove VAERS is over reported - how do you explain the off the charts level of deaths for those vaccines? Let's see some scientific proof, stat!
How about we compare the physicians' patients pre/post catastrophic Covid 'vaccine' as comparisons?
"One of the nation’s top neurologists (she’s listed in US News & World Report) told us she had significant events for 2,000 patients that should have been reported in VAERS and got so frustrated with the time commitment after making just 2 VAERS reports she stopped doing it. Note that she believed she was NOT required by law to report it, only the person who did the vaccination is. So she reported just 2 in 2,000 events. I asked her how many VAERS reports she’s posted in the past 11 years of her practice. She said zero. When I asked her why, she said, “Because there was nothing to report.”
Dr. Bradley Campell started looking at the bloodwork of his patients pre- and post-jab. Watch this video at 35:30 where he describes a patient whose troponin levels were 26 times normal after the jab. Was this a fluke? It appears not.
On Sept 3, I called Peter McCullough after I heard this. He’s currently treating a patient for myocarditis who has had troponin levels that have been ranging between 35 and 50 over the past 2 months since vaccination. He points out that normal is <.05 and a heart attack is 1 to 4. He’s never seen anything like this in his career." ~Steve Kirsch, ACIP
There are comparisons of elevated deaths and illnesses - see Steve Kirsch or Dr Josh Guetzkow discuss COVID-19 vaccine adverse events – America's Frontline Doctors (americasfrontlinedoctors.org)
You know, run along and ignore everything written that the CDC denies, and claim without evidence that Covid 'vaccines' are safe and effective.
THANK YOU... :)
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