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Longest Range Electric Cars, Trucks, And SUVs Available Now
https://insideevs.com ^ | Updated: Mar 23, 2022 at 9:16am ET | By: Andrew Lambrecht

Posted on 03/23/2022 9:33:36 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Captain Peter Blood

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Battery Recycling
Tesla cars are designed to last, but if needed, Tesla Service Centers are able to help get you back on the road.

What happens to Tesla battery packs once they reach their end of life?
Unlike fossil fuels, which release harmful emissions into the atmosphere that are not recovered for reuse, materials in a Tesla lithium-ion battery are recoverable and recyclable. Battery materials are refined and put into a cell, and will still remain in the cell at the end of their life, when they can be recycled to recover its valuable materials for reuse over and over again.

Extending the life of a battery pack is a superior option to recycling for both environmental and business reasons. For those reasons, before decommissioning a consumer battery pack and sending it for recycling, Tesla does everything it can to extend the useful life of each battery pack. Any battery that is no longer meeting a customer’s needs can be serviced by Tesla at one of our service centers around the world. None of our scrapped lithium-ion batteries go to landfilling, and 100% are recycled.


101 posted on 03/23/2022 4:01:54 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: V_TWIN

A base ecoboost powered Mustang is probably still under 30k. Mine gets 23 MPG combined and over 30 on the highway. How far can I go on $22k in gas?


102 posted on 03/23/2022 4:08:21 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Captain Peter Blood
"And then there is pollution in mining Lithium."

World's largest Lithium mine:


103 posted on 03/23/2022 4:30:26 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness

“Someday, you’ll wake up with no more Roush on the road. “

Then I will buy the 1.5 second 0-60, 9 second quarter-mile EV sports car.


104 posted on 03/23/2022 4:41:17 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness

“My lame reply to your lame point - sure, I can go months filling up at home. I have gas cans.”

Does your insurance company know you are storing hundreds of gallons of gasoline in your home?


105 posted on 03/23/2022 4:44:13 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: TexasGator
962 miles on a single tank? I think not.

Can you, or do you, bring extra home-charged batteries with you to go 962 miles?

It's inarguable that I will get farther down the road than you will when both of us fuel/charge our vehicles at home.

Be kind to earth, sell the Roush, otherwise Greta cries.

106 posted on 03/23/2022 4:51:15 PM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness

“Can you, or do you, bring extra home-charged batteries with you to go 962 miles?”

How many 5 gallon gas cans do you need to gon962 miles?


107 posted on 03/23/2022 4:54:37 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: TexasGator
Does your insurance company know you are storing hundreds of gallons of gasoline in your home?

My insurance company doesn't need to know jackshite what's in my home. Rest assure, my home won't go up in flames due to fuel.

How about you - does your insurance company know the dangerous, though infrequent, hazards of lithium batteries, in bulk no less, being charged in your garage?

Last word is yours - I can only last a few rounds of pedantic debate.

108 posted on 03/23/2022 4:59:21 PM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness

A bigger risk is going to be all those do-it-yourself homeowner “electricians” out there rewiring their homes.


109 posted on 03/23/2022 5:04:36 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: TexasGator

The recharging time after 300 miles can take from 8 to 13 hours, so a normal average 18.5-hour drive now is extended to 48 hours. Or better still an average speed of 19mph as compared to 50 mph.


110 posted on 03/23/2022 5:15:35 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Doc91678

“The recharging time after 300 miles can take from 8 to 13 hours, so a normal average 18.5-hour drive now is extended to 48 hour”

ROTFLMAO! Tesla superchargers can give you 200 miles in 15 minutes!


111 posted on 03/23/2022 5:17:49 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Doc91678

“The recharging time after 300 miles can take from 8 to 13 hours, “

The Lucid Air 520 mile range battery is rated at 118 Kwhrs. Their chargers go up to 350 kws. One hour would be 350 kwhrs or three battery worths.

However, charging is non-linear so they are stating 300 miles in 20 minutes.


Lucid Air owners who take U.S. delivery will receive three years of complimentary* charging at Electrify America’s extensive nationwide network of ultrafast charging stations that currently boasts 2,000+ individual chargers — 150kW through 350kW.


112 posted on 03/23/2022 5:30:08 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: indthkr

“ So if you are a middle class family that doesn’t live in the Southern US, and can only afford one car, EV’s are probably a bad move.”

If you live anywhere and can only afford one car IMHO an EV is probably a bad move.

It’s car #4 for me. All of the others are high mileage that we’ve owned for a long time, 2 of which were purchased used. This EV will help them all live longer.


113 posted on 03/23/2022 6:47:04 PM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: sima_yi

“Thanks. I keep thinking an EV would be useful for short trips around town, out to the range, etc. I will keep it in mind.”

Very good commuter cars. As I keep saying they keep your gasoline cars in service longer as short trips are the hardest on them.


114 posted on 03/23/2022 6:49:10 PM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: EVO X

My convertible is about that old.

It’s not why I bought an EV, but it’s an added bonus.


115 posted on 03/23/2022 6:50:31 PM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: TexasGator

Just how many of thes “fast Charging “ stations are out there and it still takes fossil fuels, whether it be coal petroleum fuel or NLPG to generate the electricity.


116 posted on 03/23/2022 11:22:29 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: jdsteel

I see a fair amount of Model 3s in my part of flyover country. On paper they look good with plenty of range and supercharging stations along the routes I normally travel. The deal killer is winter driving and supercharger availability during peak events like holidays.


117 posted on 03/24/2022 5:26:07 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: EVO X

IMHO if you need to charge your car somewhere other than your own home it becomes too problematic to be worth it.

Plan trips accordingly.


118 posted on 03/24/2022 6:37:42 AM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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Another thing I noticed is Tesla hasn’t upgraded superchargers in my area of the country. If they build new ones, they put it in the latest 240KW stations. Those are the ones that you can actually do a splash and go..


119 posted on 03/24/2022 7:29:52 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: EVO X

“Another thing I noticed is Tesla hasn’t upgraded superchargers in my area of the country. If they build new ones, they put it in the latest 240KW stations. Those are the ones that you can actually do a splash and go..”

Yeah, but.

Batteries are like BBQ; low and slow is best.

The superchargers push a ton of juice in over a short period of time. It’s hard on the battery for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is heat...especially in the summer.

It will eventually kill the battery.


120 posted on 03/24/2022 11:17:33 AM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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