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To: caww

Remember President Trump’s statement in October 2017, “It’s the calm before the storm”, and the reporter asking, “What storm?” and his answer: “You’ll see”. (paraphrasing). BTW I”ve red pilled friends by sending articles on Ukraine/propaganda, background etc. It has worked well.

Shortly thereafter Q started. I think the storm is starting. ANd, here is a great comment by Truth Hammer, read him for years on twtter and now he’s on Telegram.

https://t.me/s/TruthHammer/4244

One of the things that interests me about this disaster unfolding in Ukraine, is the potential for divide in the greater MAGA movement.

As you know, there are a ton of Trump supporters who are only partly red-pilled. They trust Trump, but hang out on the surface level of virtually all the narratives.

I hope that makes sense.

Trump (and almost everyone) is being careful to condemn Russias actions in Ukraine, while we know there’s probably much more going on than that surface level narrative.

1) it’s a reminder that Trump often pretends to only know what the public knows… until evidence comes out for everyone. This makes the people he’s trying hardest to influence feel like he’s with them

2) be CAREFUL right now in who you share deeper theories about Russia with. Normal MAGA will be repelled by it and you risk losing them on this one.

3) delicately point out just the narratives that POP. Pretend to be surprised. Use the Socratic method.

Example:
“omg it just came out that it wasn’t Russia who fired on that nuclear power plant and set it on fire! They told us it was Russian troops with all those headlines, and now they admit it was Ukraine troops trying to take it back?! why would they do that??”

This is a very powerful way to make them think about the item they would otherwise reject. You must make yourself be “in the moment” with them.

Have fun red-pilling. Go easy on this one.

The MSM narrative engineers will NOT miss this opportunity to smear you as a crazy online Russia sympathizer. Some very well timed lies are effective… use language now that inoculates you from what’s obviously coming next.

If they can’t stop you telling the truth, they will try to reduce your influence on others by pre-injecting harmful perspectives about this issue.

Rare occasions where Trump takes the opposite public position are a massive clue to be careful with your messaging until the facts come out and the narratives go POP.

Socratic method + pretend confusion. Watch Tucker Carlson for an example of how this is done.

lol at the “this is not biblical” comment. You can do this while never saying an untrue word.

With practice you’ll get better at the pattern of using a small & obvious truth (breadcrumbs) to lead someone to recognize a greater truth.

Socratic method is not inherent deceptive, like a sword is not inherently violent.

Be very patient… it took me more than two years to red-pill Mrs TruthHammer.

Now she sees the narrative engineering every day and points it out to me sometimes!


1,850 posted on 03/05/2022 3:35:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Where We Go One We Go All)
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To: little jeremiah

Simply put - there’s a war in Ukraine being fought by Russia and Nato hiding it’s troops under so called foreign fighters in order to contain the war inside Ukraine and prevent Putin from striking other nations.

But Putin sees this so it’s a matter of time if or not he chooses to go after the nations he discovers have troops inside Ukraine and can prove it. Putins a document guy.

Worlds economies shifting and everyones going to feel the pain along the way.


1,854 posted on 03/05/2022 3:46:20 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: little jeremiah; caww

~~~One of the things that interests me about this disaster unfolding in Ukraine, is the potential for divide in the greater MAGA movement.

As you know, there are a ton of Trump supporters who are only partly red-pilled. They trust Trump, but hang out on the surface level of virtually all the narratives.~~~

These 2 statements are so true! My husband can’t see what is happening. He realizes he’s been lied to about the vaccines, covid, the election, etc but when it comes to Ukraine/Russia there is no way to see good coming from Russia. He gets that Pelosi, Soros, Graham, Clinton are on the Ukraine side but all of a sudden thinks they may get it right once! I’m not saying anything anymore. I prefer to stay married!


1,924 posted on 03/05/2022 8:35:11 PM PST by Muslady
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