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To: Bob434

I think it’s all actually very simple. What Putin wants is a guarantee that Ukraine, at least the main part of it, will never join NATO.

I think it’s a deal Trump would make, in exchange for Putin recognizing NATO’s legitimacy in the countries where it already is in, plus allowing Western Ukraine to decide whether it breaks away and is eligible to join NATO.

I don’t see Putin really wanting more than that. He doesn’t want Poland or even the Baltics, as some suggest. But to him, and indeed for many Russians, Ukraine is the hill to die on.


59 posted on 02/22/2022 12:12:16 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Exactly. Ukraine is a big penis (excuse me ladies) in a weird sex session. Leave Russia alone, we are turning into the wolves that we said Russia was. Stop it.


61 posted on 02/22/2022 12:30:58 PM PST by waterhill (Resist)
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To: dfwgator

Went elk hunting in 2011 in Teton County, Wyoming. Banged a Russian chick. Good times. Did not get an elk that year.


62 posted on 02/22/2022 12:47:37 PM PST by waterhill (Resist)
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