[Bob Ireland]

***Civilization is, plain and simple, living in cities. Nothing at all to do with writing***

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[SunkenCiv]

Again, civilization is, plain and simple, living in cities.

Nothing at all to do with how residents supported themselves.

Just that one criterion — living in cities.

Not literacy, not how they fed themselves.