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To: bramps

I think in order for you to believe what you have said — every physician in the world has to be in on the conspiracy that ivermectin should not be used. Physicians across the world have used it and moved on — do you really believe that if there were a cure it would not be used and demanded? It defies the imagination!

I have no use for Fauci, believe he is beyond despicable, and have often said so — I also have personally used ivermectin to minimal effect — It may have turned one of my patients around of the large number of patients I have treated in the last two years. What is clear is that monoclonals are life saving — and while you tell us of an article from October 2020, the data I gave you on the actual production of monoclonals including synthesis (not using aborted fetal cells) is more recent data. You float a red herring that is dishonest.

You have modulated your story — monoclonals are produced with aborted fetal cells — and now in this post they are used to test the drugs — this is not a distinction without difference and is just sneaky enough that you think your lie will not be exposed.

And since you want to call out that this is a new drug please note that the first monoclonal treatments were licensed 30 years ago!

Since you refuse to understand how monoclonals are made please note the following a more extended explanation —

Monoclonal antibodies are monovalent antibodies which bind to the same epitope and are produced from a single B-lymphocyte clone [4]. They were first generated in mice in 1975 using a hybridoma technique [5]. The generation of hybridomas involves immunising a certain species against a specific epitope on an antigen and obtaining the B-lymphocytes from the spleen of the animal. The B-lymphocytes are then fused (by chemical- or virus-induced methods) with an immortal myeloma cell line lacking the hypoxanthine-guanine-phosphoribosyltransferase (HGPRT) gene and not containing any other immunoglobulin-producing cells. These hybridoma cells are then cultured in vitro in selective medium (i.e. medium containing hypoxanthine-aminopterin-thymidine) where only the hybridomas (i.e. the fusion between the primary B-lymphocytes and myeloma cells) survive as they have inherited immortality from the myeloma cells and selective-resistance from the primary B-lymphocytes (as the myeloma cells lack HGPRT, they cannot synthesise nucleotides de novo as this is inhibited by aminopterin in the selective medium) [4]. The initial culture of hybridomas contains a mixture of antibodies derived from many different primary B-lymphocyte clones, each secreting its own individual specific antibody into the culture medium (i.e. the antibodies are still polyclonal). Each individual clone can be separated by dilution into different culture wells. The cell culture medium can then be screened from many hundreds of different wells for the specific antibody activity required and the desired B-lymphocytes grown from the positive wells and then recloned and retested for activity [6]. The positive hybridomas and monoclonal antibodies generated can then be stored away in liquid nitrogen.

Where is there any species other than a mouse in the synthesis of these SYNTHETIC antibodies...


84 posted on 01/13/2022 6:44:48 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr; bramps; All
... do you really believe
that if there were a cure
it would not be used and demanded?....


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88 posted on 01/13/2022 7:12:51 PM PST by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: gas_dr

Thank you for giving us real information as a medical professional .
I appreciate hearing from someone who knows the science behind all of this.
That’s the value of FR


90 posted on 01/13/2022 8:47:39 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clinton's )
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To: gas_dr; All

It’s difficult to prioritize which of your lies are worse.

But I’ll start with something very simple. I’d guess that you wrote between 700 to 1000 words yet you never addressed Uttar Pradesh, their low death rate due to Ivermectin, and the media (you) blackout of their story. That really sums up you and all your sheep co conspirators who are either intentionally or ignorantly working with big pharma.

Moving on. You say I ‘modulated ‘ my story about aborted fetuses and monoclonals. I immediately note that you feel that you have to use a word like modulate to try to sound intelligent rather than just saying the most accurate and simple word which is change. I did nothing of the sort. The fact is that they use aborted fetuses in the development of monoclonal antibodies. And you playing semantic word games doesn’t change that one bit.

Please folks. Look at the links I provided to see the story of how Ivermectin could have stopped this pandemic in its tracks and also how aborted fetuses are used in development of monoclonal antibodies. And realize that there are lots of wolves in sheep’s clothing out there working for big Pharma either intentionally or out of ignorance and you need to weed through to see who your enemies and your allies are.

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/lucknow/uttar-pradesh-government-says-ivermectin-helped-to-keep-deaths-low-7311786/.


93 posted on 01/14/2022 5:41:40 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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