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To: EEGator
There’s no proof what they’re dying of, just that insurance companies are paying out 40% above “normal” for 18-64 y/o.

OK, fine, that sounds more reasonable, if curious.

And I'm not questioning that people have had bad reactions to the "vaccines." And I'm not questioning that the "vaccines" don't work very well, and that they're probably not worth getting.

But the idea that tens of thousands of deaths have been caused by the vaccines is a little hard for me to swallow. Some stories posted on FR have claimed that millions have died from the vaccines, worldwide. I think stories like that are annoying.

I trust Rand Paul. He's been as harder than anyone on Fauci, he's an actual medical doctor, and seems to know what he's talking about. Senator Paul says tens of thousands of people are being killed by vaccines, I'll take the claim seriously.

12 posted on 01/09/2022 9:23:40 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Steely Tom

Insurance is a competitive business, the actuarials will tell the story. It is true in many fields, not just medical and life. One of the most reliable ways to determine if there is a problem and what is going on. This is just beginning.


18 posted on 01/09/2022 9:40:41 AM PST by D Rider ( )
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To: Steely Tom

It’s more than just a curiosity. The guy that released the data said a 40% increase is unheard of.

To put the data in perspective, he said a 10% increase in all cause mortality is a 1 in 200 year event un the USA.


61 posted on 01/09/2022 11:23:04 AM PST by Sarcazmo
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To: Steely Tom

“stories like that are annoying.”

Steel yourself to be annoyed Tom.

You may want to look into this some.


62 posted on 01/09/2022 11:24:56 AM PST by Sarcazmo
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To: Steely Tom; EEGator

Here are the data so far... it’s the INTERPRETATION of the data that is in dispute.

VAERS lists a little over 21,000 deaths as of last week of December since the vaccines came out.

Columbia University estimates that there are several times the numbers in the VAERS database that should have been reported but are not.

But, but, but... the CDC tells us that the VAERS data should NOT be taken as vaccine caused or vaccine related since they have not investigated every report in their database.

So, that’s how things stand now.


70 posted on 01/09/2022 11:42:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Steely Tom
But the idea that tens of thousands of deaths have been caused by the vaccines is a little hard for me to swallow.

The prevailing theory (as far as I can tell) is not that the vaccines are directly causing the deaths in these numbers (sudden athlete death, yes; clusters of heart issues with 13-year-old boys, yes; sudden elderly celebrity/media death, yes).

The theory is that the vaccines (and boosters) are hyper-sensitizing the innate immune system to be on the lookout for the alpha strain of the virus (which, at this point, it's not going to find), which causes the immune system to de-prioritize other diseases because of the boosted immunity from the vaccine. This causes things like regular flu, cancer, etc., to accelerate while the immune system is distracted by the vaccine's effects.

-PJ

98 posted on 01/09/2022 5:17:31 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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