” but it is far worse to try to convince people it is not only okay, it is beautiful”
It’s NOT OK, never healthy and never beautiful.
And it is ALWAYS the result of choices made by the fat person.
100% of the time is is consuming more calories than expended.
I’m fat because I can’t keep my mouth shut.
“100% of the time is is consuming more calories than expended.”
You keep repeating that but you are wrong. The laws of thermodynamics apply to a closed system, and our bodies are not closed systems. Furthermore, our body’s efficiency and how it stores energy and processes food is heavily affected by hormones.
I’ve used the calories in/out theory to diet my way down to 125 lbs - a 5’8” male - without losing much of my belly fat. And no one with their hormones out of whack can stay on a limited calorie diet forever.
What HAS worked, and worked extremely well, is a combination of Keto and Intermittant Fasting to get my insulin under control. At 155 - 30 lbs heavier than my lowest weight counting calories - I don’t have ripped abs but I can see them! No counting calories. Almost no carbs and almost no fiber. But Keto and IF resulted in a long-term weight loss (from 185).
Yes, my calories also came down - but they came down because I wasn’t hungry and because I could cut calories without severe headaches and feeling weak. After 4 years, my calorie count is probably half of what it once was - a guess since I don’t count them - but I EAT LESS BECAUSE MY BODY DEMANDS LESS.
This is a critical point:
I EAT LESS BECAUSE MY BODY DEMANDS LESS.
Huge difference. This “People are fat because they have no willpower” is BS. Many of us fat people were tired of diets because we had tried them all AND FAILED. Give a fat person a way of eating that will cause them to drop weight without agony and you’ll find a lot of fat people have exceptional willpower - and will become FORMERLY fat people!
I spent 50 years following the government approved approach to eating. Endorsed by doctors all over the place. And for 50 years, dieting a half dozen times a year kept me at the edge of obesity. The thing I am most bitter about government is the government guidelines and approved eating caused me to struggle against obesity almost my entire life!
Now I’m eating things I like - between noon and 6 pm most days - and I’m in the best shape of my life. In my 60s. But it was NEVER about not trying or not having discipline. It was due to being LIED TO about how to lose weight.
https://www.youtube.com/user/lowcarbdownunder/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/DietDoctorVideo/videos
I don’t disagree at all, Mariner. I hope I didn’t come across as an excuse (that they can’t help it)
My focus was on the gaslighting done to try and make people feel guilty for not buying into the “Fat people are just as beautiful and you are hateful for not accepting it” narrative.