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To: clee1

There is valid and debatable points in what you say. Truth be told I can’t argue with what you have said. My take on it is this neurotic testing is beyond belief. There is absolutely no need to test the asymptomatic except to drive an agenda. You and i both know you never order a test that won’t change your treatment plan.

Additionally I actually am of the belief that the nurses I work with (I am privileged to work with the best of the best critical care nurses and recovery nurses) that you should have a scope of practice that doesn’t make you ask me for every laxative dose or Tylenol dose. It’s ridiculous. I am a firm proponent of nurse driving protocols that once initiated by a physician order allows you discretion.

I also realize you are the ones at Bedside for 12 hours with patients while I cannot be as I am rounding. Nursing has my deepest respects but just as there are some docs who screw this up by not knowing what they are doing that is how this nurse strikes me. He is leveling accusations of misdiagnosis or worse yet falsification of medical charts on extremely complex cases that cannot be reduced to a simple internet screed

Be well. I hope we have some areas of common ground


119 posted on 12/28/2021 3:28:46 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr
He is leveling accusations of misdiagnosis or worse yet falsification of medical charts on extremely complex cases that cannot be reduced to a simple internet screed

I somehow must have missed that part of the article.

I hate to nitpick, but could you please copy and
paste the text that shows where that happened?
I get no response in "Find" for misdiag or falsification, but chart came up...

“They [doctors] were searching for everything under the sun and documenting this in the chart,
but nowhere do you see if she was vaccinated or not,” Sam says.

Snip...“One doctor actually questioned the vaccine, but they didn’t
mention it in the chart because you can’t prove it,” Sam says.

128 posted on 12/28/2021 3:41:34 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: gas_dr

I think we do, Doc. I have met both great and incompetent, nurses and docs. Best to you.

For the record, I have told fam members that IMHO, the vaccine was likely in their best interests, and others I have told that the risks outweigh the benefits. In all cases I said TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR!


133 posted on 12/28/2021 3:48:12 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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