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More VC Nurses Blow Whistle on ‘Overwhelming’ Numbers of Heart Attacks, Clotting, Strokes
conejoguardian.org ^ | December 14, 2021 | Joel Kilpatrick

Posted on 12/28/2021 1:26:42 PM PST by ransomnote

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To: Arkansas Tider

Your friend should go to the ER right now.

Those are the same symptoms I had right before my heart attack. I had a 95% or more blockage.

My youngest sister died almost instantly from the same thing. She wasn’t feeling well but didn’t go to a doctor.


121 posted on 12/28/2021 3:31:03 PM PST by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Ok. So a sincere question. I am sure you do have a large circle of acquaintances as do David Chase and I

So in the spirit of absolute sincerity is there a middle ground anywhere between these two sides? I think the main issue is that it is complete agreement or complete disagreement. I loved the story of Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neil. There is no doubt they were politically opposites and yet they could take time to break bread and instead of the insisting of capitulation to the divergent opinions they sought the middle ground of accomplishment.

Is there any middle ground here? Or are we too fractured because od the political nature of this disease to find it?


122 posted on 12/28/2021 3:34:39 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: clee1

—> Doctors save lives (sometimes) and nurses save doctors (daily).

+1


123 posted on 12/28/2021 3:34:53 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: David Chase

***Never really left Junior.***

The same ash you always were. Good to see you back in your Ultimate Form.


124 posted on 12/28/2021 3:35:47 PM PST by ResponseAbility (-The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Wow. You’re a youngster. LOL

But do you see what I’m saying?

I think a lot of medical incidents are being noticed more and given more thought than pre Covid.

For example, someone gets a rash on their arm………first thought, does it relate to Covid? Is it a vaccine reaction from June?

When the basic usual thought process ignores the fact that they changed their laundry detergent because the Walmart was out of their regular stuff.

They are mildly allergic to the perfumes in the different soap brand.

But in these times. It’s gotta Covid, it must be the vaccine. Ya know what I’m saying?


125 posted on 12/28/2021 3:37:21 PM PST by David Chase
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To: David Chase

No.. I meant the preop pt was possibly narc-naive.... and 6mg is a fairly stout dose, esp IVP :)

I pass out the narcs by the 55 gal drum! LOL Whipper-snapper??? Thanks Grandpa! 20 year nurse in my 50s.... late 50s. 2nd career, military paramedic then IT then Nsg School.


126 posted on 12/28/2021 3:37:42 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: gas_dr

You do not know what side I am on. Why do you avoid answering questions and deflect like a snake?


127 posted on 12/28/2021 3:40:58 PM PST by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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To: gas_dr
He is leveling accusations of misdiagnosis or worse yet falsification of medical charts on extremely complex cases that cannot be reduced to a simple internet screed

I somehow must have missed that part of the article.

I hate to nitpick, but could you please copy and
paste the text that shows where that happened?
I get no response in "Find" for misdiag or falsification, but chart came up...

“They [doctors] were searching for everything under the sun and documenting this in the chart,
but nowhere do you see if she was vaccinated or not,” Sam says.

Snip...“One doctor actually questioned the vaccine, but they didn’t
mention it in the chart because you can’t prove it,” Sam says.

128 posted on 12/28/2021 3:41:34 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: David Chase

Just for the update, Grandpa... we don’t really use demerol anymore, and valium very rarely. The half-life is too long...

Oh, did I mention that darvocet was taken off the market a decade ago??

ROFL


129 posted on 12/28/2021 3:42:07 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: David Chase

+1


130 posted on 12/28/2021 3:44:01 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: gas_dr
Is this...

“One doctor actually questioned the vaccine, but they didn’t
mention it in the chart because you can’t prove it,” Sam says...

...what you're calling "falsification of medical charts"?

131 posted on 12/28/2021 3:45:42 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: amihow

I certainly can ascertain your position based on the tenor of your writing. However I was merely making fun that you called out metmom. Her positions although i disagree with are generally well reasoned and well expressed. Throwing out names in a hissy for and calling the wrong name like you did is just plain funny.


132 posted on 12/28/2021 3:46:14 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

I think we do, Doc. I have met both great and incompetent, nurses and docs. Best to you.

For the record, I have told fam members that IMHO, the vaccine was likely in their best interests, and others I have told that the risks outweigh the benefits. In all cases I said TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR!


133 posted on 12/28/2021 3:48:12 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: gas_dr
Then this...
“They [doctors] were searching for everything under the sun and documenting this in the chart,
but nowhere do you see if she was vaccinated or not,” Sam says.

...must be the accusations of misdiagnosis. Correct?

134 posted on 12/28/2021 3:49:19 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

They were 3 doors, if my memory is right.


135 posted on 12/28/2021 3:49:50 PM PST by Osage Orange (1961 VW Two Door Truck)
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To: gas_dr

That statement is bs and you know it, eats, paramedics er nurses, floor nurses do it all the time, then call Dr for orders , because you hospital based Dr’s are busy. Can you prove me wrong!!!


136 posted on 12/28/2021 3:51:15 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: David Chase

Pretty much....


137 posted on 12/28/2021 3:51:21 PM PST by Osage Orange (1961 VW Two Door Truck)
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To: philman_36
Here you have a 38-year-old woman who was double-vaccinated and she’s having strokes they can’t explain. None of the doctors relates it to the vaccine. It’s garbage. It’s absolute garbage.”

This is the nude making a diagnosis of vaccine related injury and accusing physicians of not writing it down despite having knowledge that it is vaccine related. And to add some depth to the conversation I absolutely write my differential if I am I doubt. For example I will say although I am treating this as x the differential includes y and leas likely z So if I am considering the possibility of other diagnoses I absolutely chart it so my colleagues know what I am thinking.

138 posted on 12/28/2021 3:52:08 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

As usual, your narcissism impells you to mock me for for a mistake in names(maybe), yet still deflect and assume. Perhaps you should read Aristotle?


139 posted on 12/28/2021 3:52:15 PM PST by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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To: clee1

Yeah but 12.5 of meperidine stops the post op rigors like right now. The only use for this otherwise awful drug.


140 posted on 12/28/2021 3:53:37 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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