[mylife]

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[hardspunned]

Great stuff! Well worth the five hour investment.

[mylife]

[mylife]

We, the authors of this essay believe that in claiming there was an “affirmative misrepresentation” placed into the proceedings of these investigations, Admiral Kimmel was absolutely correct. There was and there are many “affirmative misrepresentations” placed in the historical record of the Pearl Harbor Attack Hearings. These affirmative misrepresentations were made by officers from the Navy and War Departments in the aftermath of Pearl Harbor. But just as surely as this, the published record is replete with affirmative misrepresentations made by Admiral Kimmel, General Short, and other military personnel who had been on duty on Oahu or aboard ship in the eastern Pacific in 1941.

We further conclude there was no attempt, whether accidental or deliberate, to withhold critical intelligence from either Admiral Kimmel or General Short. After-the-fact testimony by Admiral Kimmel, General Short and subordinate officers serving on Oahu in 1941, claimed the Hawaiian Commanders were not furnished with intercepted, decoded and translated Japanese diplomatic message traffic.

[fella]

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[Lockbox]

My mother lived not far from the Japanese Embassy in Washington DC durning the late 1930’s and early 1940’s. She said that the Japanese were burning documents for one week before Pearl Harbor was attacked. It was clear something was coming.

There was a strong anti war feeling amount the Americans at that time. I believe that President Roosevelt needed something to push the Americans toward war. With the cut off of oil to the Japanese and other economic issues, Roosevelt was lighting the fuse.

[1Old Pro]

Many of the documents furnished to the eight investigations into Pearl Harbor were “sanitized” prior to being made public. Some documents were sanitized for security reasons; others were sanitized to protect the most sensitive secrets of Pearl Harbor. It is also likely that some documents, such as the Navy Department’s famous “war warning” dispatch of 27 November 1941, and the War Department’s “do-don’t message of the same date(5), were written to confuse the public from realizing just how much was known by the military establishment prior to the outbreak of war.

Have they been "un-sanitized" yet?

[zeestephen]

The most insightful conclusion I have ever heard about surprise attacks is that all of them are surprising because - strategically - they do not make ANY sense.

[John S Mosby]

Certain US naval vessels were sent out of Pearl Harbor, fully loaded and with orders for weapons free engagement with any Japanese shipping encountered. “Weren’t ready to fight”? Wrong and naive at this late date. The British knew what the Japs were up to- having cracked the then Ultra and magic codes, and knew an attacking force was in progress (supposedly target unknown, but the Brits knew that Hong Kong, Malaya and Singapore were most likely for their own interests to deal with) General Marshall (the seemingly unknowing, was horseback riding on Sunday EST noontime).

No US carriers were in port. Admiral Halsey’s flagship, and one other at sea, the third in port in CA.

Magic & Ultra codes, the Brits had, and shared with “highest command”. Let’s not kid ourselves that FDR knew, and intended this. The lauded icon of the neo Socialist democrat machine of his 3 terms (and his “New Bill of Rights” which he concocted) have been their guidon for decades, aided by “progressives” and Communists around the world (the Globalist corporatist agenda is manifest in all this- to “get along” with wall street and the post WWII world. The lives lost, as Stalin said “are a statistic”).

Admiral Theobald’s excellent book, “The Final Secret of Pearl Harbor: The Washington Background of the Pearl Harbor Attack”, is lauded by Admiral Halsey, and overviewed by Richard Sorge, here (very interesting reading of command opinion, and intelligence known, and ignored. By design).

http://www.richardsorge.com/literature/books/finalsecretofpearlharbor.pdf

NYslimes via Life Magazine, Sept 22, 1945 (after V-J day, just):

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/69091401

The US would have eventually gotten involved as we were a target— of the Japanese. We made ourselves one. The attitude of our State Dept vs. Hitler— see: “In the Garden of the Beasts: Love, Terror and an American Family in Hitler’s Berlin”.— excellent highly revealing/research with first person sources .

Our button down State Dept-— well, they were pals of the German Socialists (and co-opted by espionage, by the nazis, and most definitely by Soviet Communists of Stalin. The known agents of Stalin all documented inside FDR’s cabinet and advisors, stoking the democrat fellow travellers).

[Captain Peter Blood]

The last couple of years I have read a great deal of this. Nigel Hamilton’s 3 volume series on Roosevelt as the Commander in Chief is an excellent read with lots in information on Pearl Harbor.

One person who stands out as a sort of villain in the Pearl Harbor fiasco is Admiral Richmond Kelly Turner, who was Director of War Plans when the attack happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond_K._Turner

Worth reading his part in the mess.

[jmacusa]

My Uncle Bill was an Army Air Corps mechanic stationed at Hickham Field. He had wanted to become a pilot.

He was wounded that day, either a bullet or a piece of shrapnel blew out his knee.

He was in recovery for two years and that ended his hopes of getting pilots wings.

He ended up as a combat engineer with Patton’s Third Army and was wounded again high tailing it out of St. Vith with his unit during The Battle of The Bulge but he made it home ok.

God bless all those young men and women of that day, of that generation.