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Another Case Where Everything You've Read Is Wrong: Ahmaud Arbery
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 24 Nov, 2021 | Francis Menton

Posted on 11/24/2021 3:55:57 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: DiogenesLamp

No child.

We made our mind up that they are “scum” because they gunned down a man in cold blood.


101 posted on 11/24/2021 10:53:47 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Manic_Episode
Amateurs with no training or experience get people killed. I believe a pro may have been able to pull it off. Perhaps not. /armchairquarterback.

The elder McMichael was a police officer for 20 years, and according to some posts above, the Younger McMichael trained coast guard servicemen how to successfully board a vessel with hostiles on it.

These sound like professionals to me.

And good work on your arrest.

102 posted on 11/24/2021 10:54:37 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Pikachu_Dad
“All he’s done is run away from you,” prosecutor Linda Dunikoski said. “And you pulled out a shotgun and pointed it at him.””

As was pointed out above, previously Arbery was running straight at the younger McMichael until the younger McMichael pulled out his shotgun at which time Arbery immediately stopped and ran back the other direction.

Trying to break into another car in an effort to flee is also evidence that Arbery was dangerous.

103 posted on 11/24/2021 10:57:37 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Fury
Yep, based on the testimony I saw and also read. Sorry if that triggers you.

It simply saddens me that so many of our juries have inabilities to accurately judge cases, and you have given me another example of why this is.

104 posted on 11/24/2021 11:01:06 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Hot Tabasco
Apparently the jury is afraid of the mob outside and wanted to avoid a riot, just as they almost did with Rittenhouse.

Two white women wanted to throw him to the wolves to avoid riots, but after several days they were talked out of it and did the right thing.

It is no surprise to me that Juries have once again botched a case. It happens a lot.

105 posted on 11/24/2021 11:03:18 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: MtnClimber
BLM scum owe the white community an apology.

This verdict was NOT race-based AND it was fair. Just like the Rittenhouse trial was just and the trial was fair.

Good for our juries - good for our legal system... A pox on BLM thugs for trying to intimidate citizens.

106 posted on 11/24/2021 11:03:57 AM PST by GOPJ (One man lying to himself is pathetic - - a culture lying to itself seeds it's own destruction.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Now they will be raped and murdered in prison.
I live outside Philly. If I tried to stop blacks from committing crime, I wouldn’t even make a dent.
Maybe I look at it different from you since my area is already lost.


107 posted on 11/24/2021 11:04:42 AM PST by EEGator
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To: GOPJ

Fair my @$$. “Fear” is the more likely cause of that verdict.


109 posted on 11/24/2021 11:06:05 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: GJones2

Unless you are a unarmed women in the Capitol building.
Then it’s okay to shoot a trespasser.


110 posted on 11/24/2021 11:07:39 AM PST by Leep (Save America. Lock down pres. Brandon!)
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To: Leep

They weren’t the owners.


111 posted on 11/24/2021 11:09:02 AM PST by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: EEGator
Now they will be raped and murdered in prison. I live outside Philly. If I tried to stop blacks from committing crime, I wouldn’t even make a dent. Maybe I look at it different from you since my area is already lost.

If your argument has been they should never have tried to do anything to a black guy because of the political minefield associated with it, I can agree with that, but I try to look at treating people equally and judge based on objective standards, not political considerations.

Take out the politics, and this case would never have been brought.

112 posted on 11/24/2021 11:09:48 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Politics is everything.


113 posted on 11/24/2021 11:11:03 AM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

+1.


114 posted on 11/24/2021 11:15:10 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Reported fora foul mouth.


115 posted on 11/24/2021 11:18:19 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Mr.Unique

Got it


116 posted on 11/24/2021 11:20:14 AM PST by Leep (Save America. Lock down pres. Brandon!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Thank you. My medal is still up on the wall along with the letter recommending it.

I have not seen the video so I'm talking out my butt, but I'm having a difficult time not blaming ineptitude.

117 posted on 11/24/2021 11:22:50 AM PST by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

There was someone following Arbery filming him. The retired LEO and his son were video taped parked pointed the wrong direction partway off the road near the only entrance/exit to the community. The Retired LEO was standing outside the vehicle on the driver side. His son was outside the vehicle on the other side of the road with the shotgun. Arbury charged them dropping something like a hammer on the side of the road and rushed the father (LEO). Arbury then continued around the back of the truck and charged at the son and grabbed the shotgun by the barrel and tried to pull it away. The shotgun fired once at what looked to be just in the air and again hitting Arbury. There may have been another shot too, I don’t remember. The truck maay have passed Arbury at some point, I don’t know that. I can see why police just let looters loot, burn and sometimes kill. Too much risk in stopping it these days.


118 posted on 11/24/2021 11:24:47 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“You have embraced that lie, and it has colored everything you have thought about it since.”

Nope. Not a chance. I didn’t form an opinion until reading the Legal Insurrection stuff, and their stuff is actual pro-defendant in this case.


119 posted on 11/24/2021 11:39:43 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
It simply saddens me that so many of our juries have inabilities to accurately judge cases, and you have given me another example of why this is.

Because we don't agree? Good grief.

120 posted on 11/24/2021 11:51:25 AM PST by Fury
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