Posted on 11/19/2021 5:40:19 PM PST by simpson96
Nice (NOT) skate.
Com’o man, You sound like all the other FReep provaxxs.
If you are who you say you are, you know damn well that HCQ and Ivermectin ARE prophylaxis for the Fauxi/CCP scamdemic.
This started as a discussion about a very interesting fact about COVID, which is that it’s less common in Africa than population density and sanitation would predict.
A lot of people said it was because Africans take ivermectin every day, and I said they don’t (because they don’t).
That’s all.
A lot what gets posted here on FR comes from sources like The Expose. I think that’s what you are referring to.
PubMed is where serious studies get published and open to peer review. Such as this paper from July 2021:
Ivermectin for preventing and treating COVID-19
Objectives: To assess the efficacy and safety of ivermectin compared to no treatment, standard of care, placebo, or any other proven intervention for people with COVID-19 receiving treatment as inpatients or outpatients, and for prevention of an infection with SARS-CoV-2 (postexposure prophylaxis).
Main results: We found 14 studies with 1678 participants investigating ivermectin compared to no treatment, placebo, or standard of care.
No study compared ivermectin to an intervention with proven efficacy.
There were nine studies treating participants with moderate COVID-19 in inpatient settings and four treating mild COVID-19 cases in outpatient settings.
One study investigated ivermectin for prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection.
Eight studies had an open-label design, six were double-blind and placebo-controlled.
Of the 41 study results contributed by included studies, about one third were at overall high risk of bias.
Ivermectin doses and treatment duration varied among included studies. We identified 31 ongoing and 18 studies awaiting classification until publication of results or clarification of inconsistencies.
Ivermectin compared to placebo or standard of care for inpatient COVID-19 treatment
We are uncertain whether ivermectin compared to placebo or standard of care reduces or increases mortality and clinical worsening up to day 28 assessed as need for invasive mechanical ventilation (IMV) or need for supplemental oxygen, adverse events within 28 days, and viral clearance at day seven.
Ivermectin may have little or no effect compared to placebo or standard of care on clinical improvement up to 28 days and duration of hospitalization. No study reported quality of life up to 28 days.
Ivermectin compared to placebo or standard of care for outpatient COVID-19 treatment
We are uncertain whether ivermectin compared to placebo or standard of care reduces or increases mortality up to 28 days and clinical worsening up to 14 days assessed as need for IMV or non-IMV or high flow oxygen requirement.
We are uncertain whether ivermectin compared to placebo reduces or increases viral clearance at seven days . Ivermectin may have little or no effect compared to placebo or standard of care on the number of participants with symptoms resolved up to 14 days and adverse events within 28 days.
None of the studies reporting duration of symptoms were eligible for primary analysis. No study reported hospital admission or quality of life up to 14 days.
Ivermectin compared to no treatment for prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection. We found one study. Mortality up to 28 days was the only outcome eligible for primary analysis.
We are uncertain whether ivermectin reduces or increases mortality compared to no treatment. The study reported results for development of COVID-19 symptoms and adverse events up to 14 days that were included in a secondary analysis due to high risk of bias. No study reported SARS-CoV-2 infection, hospital admission, and quality of life up to 14 days.
Authors’ conclusions: Based on the current very low- to low-certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of ivermectin used to treat or prevent COVID-19. The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality. Several studies are underway that may produce clearer answers in review updates. Overall, the reliable evidence available does not support the use ivermectin for treatment or prevention of COVID-19 outside of well-designed randomized trials.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34318930/
“If you are who you say you are, you know damn well that HCQ and Ivermectin ARE prophylaxis for the Fauxi/CCP scamdemic.”
Why would he “know” that?
Because the Q cult clown show repeats it constantly?
You made a blanket statement Ivermectin it is not used for prevention, but Ivermectin is used for prevention. Why lie?
Quess we need to add you to the list.
Read later pubmed.com info about ivermectin.
Read later.
A few years ago there was discussion here on FR about the parasite issue being handled by food grade diatomaceous earth. Would that be a possible option for Covid, or does it work in an entirely different way?
So Ivermectin use extends from about 22 degrees south to about 22 degrees north. It’s very nearly symmetrical around the equator. And Africa itself is nearly symmetrical around the equator: about 35 degrees both north and south. More of it is near the equator than any other continent. Coincidental? It does seem that climate plays a role.
Diatomaceous earth works by physically cutting the invasive agent, typically a parasite, maybe bacteria. Virus is too small to be affected by DE,
Did you know that Capetown, way down in south in Africa, is the same distance from the equator as is Atlanta?
That actually supports the reproof that you are responding to, that it is a false to opine “My theory is People are dying with Covid, but they aren’t being counted.” If "We counted people in Hospice with Do not Resuscitate orders as Covid deaths" then rather than Covid deaths undercounted,thenn it likely inflates them. Which is consistent with the broad criteria of the CDC guidelines for listing deaths as Covid.
Below are the pertinent excerpts far that criteria from the CDC page (emphasis mine) Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Bold emphasis is sometimes added by me:
…CSTE realizes that field investigations will involve evaluations of persons with no symptoms and these individuals will need to be counted as cases.
Probable
Clinical Criteria
OR
Epidemiologic Linkage
One or more of the following exposures in the 14 days before onset of symptoms:
OR
The above provide minimal criteria by which a person can be classed as being having Covid-19 and dying of the same. And for which hospitals can indeed obtain more gov. funding for them.[2]
Based upon this criteria we can easily surmise that many cases and deaths are being classed as Covid-19 when in reality they are something else, including the flu (cases of which are very low).
It is true that many Covid-19 cases and deaths are not reported, however, unlike cases in which about have have no symptoms, I think it is far more likely that there are more deaths being reported as by Covid-19 then that are missed. The reason for this is because those with symptoms are much more likely to have been tested and diagnosed as having Covid-19 and those with symptoms of the ones most likely to die.
Footnotes
When People talk about Covid in Africa, they aren’t talking about South Africa, which has 20X-50X the Covid death rate of the sub saharan African Countries.
Covid deaths in a 3rd world country seem to have an inverse relationship to Chinese influence.
The above maps are reveal somewhat of a overal corelation, though they does not necessarily mean causation, and the statistics ithese are based upon suffer from poor reporting in rural areas and impoverished locations. Also, such aspects as average age, general health, medicines, population density, climate, mobility, heath care, social characteristics and more must be weighed as affecting Covid lethality rates.
Covid deaths in a 3rd world country seem to have an inverse relationship to Chinese influence.
***That tracks with other data. The narrative is that when China realized they had accidentally released one of their manufactured virus weapons, they didn’t want it to be mostly centered in Wuhan. So they approached a few hundred good communist souls who knew they were dying of this flu, put them onto planes around the world to spread the disease in exchange for top priority position of healthcare for their own families back home.
No, I myself did not know, thanks. Yet the US at 16% has far greater % of those 65+ than S. Africa at 6%. And research shows..., Atlanta is America's No. 1 rapidly aging city, according to Forbes.com.
Atlanta's senior population grew 20 percent between 2010 and 2014, well above the average 11.3 percent increase seen across the country's 53 largest metropolitan areas. Seniors represent roughly 15 percent of the overall population now, but this number is projected to rise to 21 percent. - https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2016/03/23/forbes-atlanta-is-nations-no-1-rapidly-aging-city.html
Then there is the obesity aspect. See maps above if you like.
The graphics above reveal an overall correlation between obesity and Covid death rates, though this does not establish causation. Such aspects as average age, general health, population density, climate, mobility, heath care, medicine, social characteristics and more must be weighed as affecting Covid lethality rates. In addition, the statistics these graphics are based upon suffer from poor reporting in rural areas and impoverished locations.
A lot what gets posted here on FR comes from sources like The Expose. I think that’s what you are referring to.
Only, no....MOST info, here, on Ivermectin doesn’t ‘come only from ‘The Expose’.
A very simple search, just using the keyword “Ivermectin” proves that....
https://freerepublic.com/tag/ivermectin/index?tab=articles
And....
Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ^ | February 10, 2011 | Andy CRUMP*1 and Satoshi ŌMURA*1†
Posted on 11/1/2021, 7:23:06 PM by ransomnote
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4008875/posts
Just a few examples.
What I was referring to is how it is interesting to see you posting information about Ivm’s invention.....even though, as you can see, above, it’s been posted numerous times, before (and, not *just from* The Expose....many medical org sources, etc. as well.)
Obesity:
My first thought was that maybe people at higher latitudes are less active, as they are remaining indoors to keep warm. On the other hand, when it’s very hot, people are lethargic.
My second thought was maybe it’s an evolutionary adaptation: people at higher latitudes have more fat to keep warm.
My third thought was that much of the world’s wealth is in Europe and North America, so at higher latitudes. Maybe, while remaining indoors, the people are inventing things which create wealth, resulting in them overeating.
It must be quite a challenge to disentangle all these competing factors.
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