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America Has Lost the Plot on COVID
Atlantic Monthly ^ | November 1, 2021 | Sarah Zhang

Posted on 11/09/2021 5:12:46 PM PST by Pontiac

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To: gracefullyparanoid

Lots more myocarditis and in fact cardiac health issues from covid itself.

Vaccinated folk spread far less virus for a much shorter time period.

What are the debilitating effects of mrna vaccines?
Post vivid about 30% of the “recovered” have cardiac damage and another 35% have permanent lung damage.


81 posted on 11/09/2021 7:15:23 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Pontiac

No. I did. The reason vaccines are being pushed is because that is what has worked historically.


82 posted on 11/09/2021 7:16:48 PM PST by MarMema
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To: gitmo
I'm almost 70. All my doctors have told me I should not get the Covid shot.

Lucky. I'm 75 and my cardiologist busts my ass every time I see him. I only put up with it because he's proven himself to be an excellent plumber.

83 posted on 11/09/2021 7:17:24 PM PST by Stentor ( )
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To: MarMema

I’m all for vulnerable populations getting vaxxed. There zero objective evidence in ANY country in the world that 90% vaccination will stop the spread of variant Covid.

None.

Or are you proposing boosters for everyone until eternity?

If not what is % vaccination number to “stop the spread”.

90% of adults in Singapore isn’t enough to stop exponential spread without DRACONIAN Lockdowns/forced family separations and a ton of anti American shit.

If you want that, you want war.


84 posted on 11/09/2021 7:18:47 PM PST by UNGN
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To: Antoninus

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20050214/do-flu-shots-save-lives


85 posted on 11/09/2021 7:19:00 PM PST by MarMema
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To: UNGN

I agree!

And no one knows what will work. Herd immunity did not work for smallpox.

All they know, as I keep saying, is that vaccines have worked. In the past.
So they are pushing them and keeping their fingers crossed.


86 posted on 11/09/2021 7:21:36 PM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-02-common-antidepressant-deadly-covid-complications.html


87 posted on 11/09/2021 7:28:24 PM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema

What is your Number for % vaxxed to stop the spread of Covid?

Not to be a dick, but you are the “Medical Expert” here, not us. I’m just a “looking at data objectively expert”

Us “Trump Voters” are waiting for your % of Vaccination to stop the spread.

120%? 150%? 90% doesn’t seem to cut it.


88 posted on 11/09/2021 7:28:54 PM PST by UNGN
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To: cuban leaf
From day one I’ve just been living with it like it’s this year’s version of the flu. I don’t mask, I’m not the least bit interested in getting vaccinated, and I live my life as I did 10 years ago. Heck I’ve never had a flu shot either.

What you said.

89 posted on 11/09/2021 7:37:24 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: MarMema
The reason vaccines are being pushed is because that is what has worked historically.

As I said before, not with CORONA viruses.

It has been an enduring cliché’ that there is no cure the common cold.

Science has been unable to come up with a vaccine for the common cold, which is the most common CORONA virus, despite decades of trying.

A vaccine is only considered effective if it produces an enduring immunity.

I think that the breakthrough infections that are so common show that the vaccines in use are less than effective.

90 posted on 11/09/2021 7:39:15 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Stentor

My cardiologist is one of the docs who said not to get it.


91 posted on 11/09/2021 8:06:44 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: MarMema
"Second in Feb. Booster/third last week."

When is your forth ... your fifth .. your seventy second?

92 posted on 11/09/2021 8:14:36 PM PST by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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To: MarMema

re: “They provide immunity and are very much vaccines.”

Nut.


93 posted on 11/09/2021 8:22:28 PM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: MarMema; hinckley buzzard; Lurkinanloomin; Blood of Tyrants; ProtectOurFreedom; cuban leaf; ...
Ivermectin works as well, probably better than Pfiser’s new anti-COVID drug so why take an experimental vaccine?
94 posted on 11/09/2021 8:30:50 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: UNGN

Thanks. The article is deceptive indeed.


95 posted on 11/09/2021 8:40:24 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: MarMema

ah yes... a vaxx bot

ROFL


96 posted on 11/09/2021 9:27:56 PM PST by MIA_eccl1212 (When the bad guys have leverage they use it)
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To: UNGN

The ONLY way out of an outbreak of a virus of this type is through it. The best thing to come out of this would be to let the kids get infected, to recover and pass immunity down to their children. It does happen, look at the Spanish Flu, it didn’t disappear, humans overcame it, just like we did uncounted diseases.

This time though, government created, planned and executed this on a worldwide stage. They want total control, they want that New World Order and on their terms.


97 posted on 11/09/2021 10:36:57 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: MarMema

If you correct for deaths before age 16 years of age, you will find that the length of life has improved, but not as drastically as you would think.


98 posted on 11/09/2021 10:45:41 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: MarMema

Define immunity?


99 posted on 11/09/2021 10:46:55 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: MarMema

Chicken pox, Measles, Mumps..... waste of time getting vaccinations for them. It is better to get the diseases. Whooping cough, is a toss up. It went through our house when I was a kid, I remember the noises of the HOOP HOOP cough. Nobody died among us 5. The others, humans are better off getting diseases and overcoming them. Find me a disease that kills a high percentage of people, that is a vaccine I would agree is worth the cost of destroying human immune systems. Tetanus? Has anyone died of Tetanus in the last 100 years? Rabies has no vaccine for humans, they are treatments. My grandmother was bitten by a rabid animal and they gave her a series of shots into the abdomen.


100 posted on 11/09/2021 10:53:59 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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