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To: Kartographer

The feckless and heartless British and French insisted on having men die needlessly fighting after the Armistice was signed instead of simply holding in place.

This disgusting act of callousness towards their own men had much to do with the end of the Empire and the rise of the leftists in the Labour Party.


4 posted on 11/08/2021 3:54:11 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: MercyFlush

And F Clemenceau too!


5 posted on 11/08/2021 3:55:06 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MercyFlush
"The feckless and heartless British and French insisted on having men die needlessly fighting after the Armistice was signed instead of simply holding in place.

This disgusting act of callousness towards their own men had much to do with the end of the Empire and the rise of the leftists in the Labour Party.


I read years ago that during WWI the soldiers worst enemy was their generals. I've read a number of books on World War I or touch on it heavily this past year and understood why Robert Graves permanently disowned his country and moved abroad and why T.E. Lawrence literally walked out in the middle of his knighthood ceremony.

One of the myths of the Great War was that is was a stalemate toward the end which it was not. The Germans at the end of the war broke thru the British and French lines and were about to capture Paris like they did in 1870. What reversed the tide was the intervention of the American Expeditionary Force. Pershing refused to let the American troops be integrated into the British and French troops so the generals couldn't continue the mass slaughter now using American troops.

The British and French lost the war though they repeatedly lied to their citizens about their great victories. These victories were pure propaganda. They also lied about the German casualties which were about 1/3 to 1/2 of those of the British. Britain was exhausted at the end, both of manpower and economically. After the war they saw that Germany was not exhausted at all but had a vibrant economy.

Toward the end of the war the British troops were surrendering en masse rather than having to charge thru the no-man's land to certain death. The German troops themselves couldn't believe the tactics. They would actually take pity on the British troops and suspend fire so they could evacuate the wounded.

Then in gratitude for Wilson's intervention the Allies ignored his 14 points (which were quite reasonable) and inflicted the Treaty of Versailles on Germany which as many noted at the time would be the basis for the next great war.

The British and French generals of WWI were the first mass murderers of the 20th century.
15 posted on 11/08/2021 4:49:17 PM PST by KamperKen (u)
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