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Vaccination is supposed to trick your immune system into thinking your body is being attacked without producing the bad outcomes that the actual disease can produce.
market-ticker.org ^ | NOVEMBER 4, 2021 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 11/04/2021 8:06:42 AM PDT by ransomnote

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To: Delta 21
Ok...never mind...I found the video.


21 posted on 11/04/2021 9:58:48 AM PDT by moovova (I'm dismayed that most of the world hates me for being non-vaxxed. Honest. No, really.)
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To: Notthemomma

“Dude”
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ransomnote is a Dudette not a Dude, and she is merely quoting Denninger, so maybe Denninger is the Dude whom you are referencing. Perhaps Denninger is reading too much into the study as you say, but I understood his point to be that “we don’t know” about these vaccines that are being forced on us. I got your point about it being an inactivated vaccine which Denninger points out also. I understood the idea of the original paper to be an attempt to find a clinical data basis for harsh Covid-19 outcomes. This is important to understand: Two people infected at the same time in the same way yet one dies horribly and the other is mild or asymptomatic. New technology described allows them to test before and after infection or vaccination. Reported results suggest an explanatory hypothesis not only for harsh virus outcomes but also for credible reports of vaccination adverse reactions.
That only 11 healthy volunteers were helping in this way would be no matter at all, if we were in the normal atmosphere of testing and development of any other vaccine. Nobody is suggesting this is the last word of course. Please correct me with my thanks.

Karl Denninger’s use of “emphasis” is ridiculous! What is wrong with him??!! Why can’t he just use exclamation points and ALL CAPS like the rest of the internet??!!


22 posted on 11/04/2021 11:11:29 AM PDT by BDParrish (God called, He said He'd take you back!)
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To: ransomnote

All that the “med experts”, politicos, and Pharm folk care about is that the taxpayer $$$ continue to flow. This is nothing but a diversion of wealth — right up the alley of a commie wannabe.
They have no interest in your health, and no concern about the death rate of the fake vax now being bigger than the supposed (inflated) death rate of WuhanFlu. You are a peasant, beneath notice.


23 posted on 11/04/2021 11:16:03 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo, WuhanFlu)
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24 posted on 11/04/2021 1:09:27 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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To: Notthemomma
Dude.

There is so much horribly wrong with your reasoning in this post that I can't even begin to try to help you.

You might want to start by noting I didn't write the article, and perhaps take it up with the author, Karl Denninger. Offer to 'help him' because that's the best way to engage in productive discussions.

Never mind that it's only 11 patients in the "study," and that's it 11 "healthy" Chinese volunteers at that.

That was a Phase I trial; those always consist of a daring handful of (trusting) volunteers. Phase I finds out if the treatments etc. are too harmful to progress to phase II. Phase 1 uses healthy volunteers because it's actually hoping to make it to phase II and doesn't want potential medication or procedure trials to fail based on 'noise' created by one or more co-morbidities in such a small trial. 

It's simply foolhardy to extend any conclusions from such a small and severely homogeneous patient population to the diverse and huge USA, or any group really.

You seem to think this was a phase III trial deciding whether or not a vaccine works. This was a phase I trial exploring the concept of mimicing an illness with a vaccine to create immunity. Phase I is kept very small and uses a healthy volunteers because of the very high risk various treatments could result in fatalities for all involved. In this case, Ac1 remains high so the patients are in a pre-diabetic state. Had they skipped trials I and II they would then be expected to test at minimum 30,000 people with something that would leave them pre-diabetic.

I'll put a screen capture here, and the research writers encapsulate the information they are seeking in their Phase I trial in the first sentence:

But the biggest problem in your analysis,

not mine....

...is that you predicate all your conclusions on the idea of an mRNA vaccine, and not a "real" vaccine--one using attenuated (weakened or inactivated or dead) virus--and you use the data in this "study" for that.

I don't see where you arrived at that assertion. Karl notes that this is a attenuated vaccine.

But this "study" actually uses a "real vaccine," an attenuated vaccine--the Sinopharm "Vero Cell" vaccine (it's in the freaking report, if you read it). So all of your conclusions about how bad mRNA vaccines are, drawn from this "study," are worthless.

I don't believe you understood the study or Denninger's concern about the results.

Denninger: "Vaccination is supposed to trick your immune system into thinking your body is being attacked without producing the bad outcomes that the actual disease can produce.  You get the protection, but not the potential bad outcomes from infection itself."

So Denninger is dismayed to see that the vaccinated experienced the same harm (e.g., Ac1) as those who had the illness.

Here's a screen capture from the study that supports his concern:

So why mimic an illness with a vaccine if you end up with the harm caused by the illness?

All this "study" says is that some of those 11 healthy chinese volunteers that got the weakened virus vaccination responded just as if they had been actually infected. So maybe it just means the vaccination worked, or maybe that the weakened virus in the vaccine was less inactivated than they thought.

SMH.

20 posted on 11/4/2021, 9:21:16 AM by Notthemomma ( )

As I said, I don't believe you understood the study or the article.

Karl notes that the vaccination strategy of mimicing an illness with an inactivated virus resulted in causing some of the same significant harm as the illness itself.

Denninger then says vaccinations for Covid should stop until the mRNA and adeno virus vaccines now in use are also tested for these negative impacts. In particular, no one should vaccinate a child with vaccines which mimic Covid until this kind of testing is done to ensure you're not making children pre-diabetic etc. 

Denninger: "This needs to be run down for the mRNA and viral-vector jabs now and until it is, conclusively, this crap must be immediately halted.  If you vaccinate a single child before proving these things do not happen with the jabs we use here in America you should hang for it -- by your genitals."

25 posted on 11/04/2021 3:27:52 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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Plain text italic plain text bold plain text bold italic plain text bold plain text italic… what do you do when you want to emphasize something but you already emphasized everything else and you have run out of emphasizing character styles?
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I dunno.
I didn’t format the article - that’s how it was presented on the web page.


26 posted on 11/04/2021 3:46:48 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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India's Ivermectin Blackout - Part V: The Secret Revealed
thedesertreview.com ^ | Sep 27, 2021 | Justus R. Hope

Posted on 11/4/2021, 3:58:06 PM by ransomnote

[H/T Osage Orange]

27 posted on 11/04/2021 3:59:19 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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From your link:
 
 
Chief Nerd
 
@TheChiefNerd
 
New research from Dr. Mike Williams shows how the mRNA jabs turn off the body’s innate immune system, specifically Toll Like Receptors (TLR) 3, 7 and 8, which play a vital role in fighting viruses, infections, and CANCER! https://ukcolumn.org/article/stabilising-the-code

28 posted on 11/04/2021 4:31:29 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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rightwingcrazy to ransomnote

“an inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine”

None of the vaccines in the US introduce an inactivated virus, but instead stimulate the production of a modified viral protein. That approach has a different set of advantages and concerns.

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The author, Karl Denninger notes they tested an inactivated virus and says given the seriousness of the results, the covid vaccines in use in the US should be tested to find out if they have similar or equally severe consequences, and that no child should receive a Covid vaccine until this work is done.


29 posted on 11/04/2021 4:34:57 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

I have to agree.


30 posted on 11/04/2021 5:56:53 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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Even the polio vaccine was not mandated.


31 posted on 11/05/2021 6:11:11 AM PDT by dhouston
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