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Sheriff says Alec Baldwin's gun shot live bullet on New Mexico set
Reuters ^ | 10/27/2021 | Lisa Richwine

Posted on 10/27/2021 11:21:37 AM PDT by Avalon Memories

SANTA FE, N.M., Oct 27 (Reuters) - Actor Alec Baldwin fired a 45 caliber Colt pistol loaded with a live lead bullet in last week's accidental fatal shooting on the New Mexico set of his movie "Rust" where filmmakers showed "complacency" toward safety, authorities said on Wednesday.

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Media Coverage = Poor Alec

Law doesn’t apply to AB

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21 posted on 10/27/2021 11:34:38 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (‘’)
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To: Red Badger
45 Caliber.............


22 posted on 10/27/2021 11:35:40 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Avalon Memories

What about the other 2 guns on the cart, did they have any live ammo in them, or just that one gun. Also the AD picked up a gun off that cart for Baldwin, again was that random or did Baldwin have a specific gun he was using in the film. Still lots of questions and they will have be answered.

I want to see the report that will filed by the insurance investigators, lets see what they come up with.

By the way the protocol on using guns on the set involve the prop person having total and complete control of the weapons at all time, never out of their sight. When they go on the set the guns are checked and checked again with the actor using them with the prop person, when the scene is finished the guns are taken back into custody by the prop person and locked up. Now of this is SOP, then this AD and Prop Person have a lot to answer for also. Liability will not be totally with Baldwin, if any.


23 posted on 10/27/2021 11:36:30 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;pag, and that)
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To: V_TWIN

Depends on the scene and what’s needed. Sometimes they use real live ammo for certain controlled scenes.


24 posted on 10/27/2021 11:36:53 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Avalon Memories
The fact it was a lead projectile takes off the table the possibility it was a pebble or gravel that might have found its was into the barrel to cause the fatality.

The armorer is denying responsibility. The only way I can see she would even have a chance of that would be if due to covid restrictions she was kept away from the set, and was directed to safe the firearms and leave them outside where they were shooting the scene. They may have been there for hours. Rather than guard them, she would have gone off, leaving the guns unattended.

Then they may have been tampered with (deliberately,) or misused (inadvertently creating a dangerous situation). I can't see what other defense she could come up with.

I believe she was the one who took the fired shell out of the gun immediately after the incident, so she may have thought that she had previously checked it, and wondered how it got there.

Next, the sheriff claims: "Mendoza said 500 rounds were located on set, which were a mix of blank ammunition, dummy rounds and, possibly, live rounds."

That description is important. They knew there were dummy rounds on the set - but they will not now say that there were live rounds - only "possibly" live rounds.

Which means even they couldn't be sure whether the rounds there were live or dummy rounds. Secondly, they are not saying for sure that live rounds were seized, even though earlier reports have insisted many live rounds were seized.

25 posted on 10/27/2021 11:37:03 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: Avalon Memories

Something fishy here. Why would he practice in front of the camera? Why not a mirror?


26 posted on 10/27/2021 11:38:15 AM PDT by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: Pollster1
He was just standing there pulling the trigger while aiming at a woman, when the gun shot the woman.

lol. I used to tell my kids..."I'm going to start waving my hand back and forth in the air. And if any of you kids happen to get in my way as I'm walking forward, it's your own fault."
27 posted on 10/27/2021 11:38:53 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Fido969

And, I guess we still have the possibility of a squib round. You can’t “look down the barrel” of that gun completely. The only way that would be identified by putting a rod down the barrel. Had the armorer done correct procedures on the guns, as she claimed, she would have done that. After the Lee episode, I’m sure that is drilled into the head of anyone handling firearms on set.


28 posted on 10/27/2021 11:40:43 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: subterfuge
Something fishy here. Why would he practice in front of the camera? Why not a mirror?

My guess is that the scene called for him to point the gun towards the camera and fire.
29 posted on 10/27/2021 11:41:44 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Pollster1
Alec Baldwin was an innocent bystander. He was just standing there pulling the trigger while aiming at a woman, when the gun shot the woman.

Post of the day!

30 posted on 10/27/2021 11:42:09 AM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: Pollster1

I am going to use that!


31 posted on 10/27/2021 11:42:23 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Avalon Memories

Well, duh! The wadding of a blank isn’t going to go through one person and into another.


32 posted on 10/27/2021 11:42:29 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Avalon Memories

Only reason the cap and ball was discussed was because the UK Guardian ran a picture of what they claimed was the revolver. The one in the picture was a cap and ball.


33 posted on 10/27/2021 11:44:09 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: plain talk

“Sometimes they use real live ammo for certain controlled scenes.“

And they let untrained actors fire them?


34 posted on 10/27/2021 11:44:54 AM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: HollyB

Yes, it was a real bullet, not a blank.


35 posted on 10/27/2021 11:46:38 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...)
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To: Avalon Memories
Gate-loaded gun, I'd imagine the procedure for preparing that gun with blanks would be to assure each chamber is empty, (half cock and turn the cylinder so you can see daylight through each chamber in turn.)

Next, have a clear loading table in front of you with only six rounds, carefully inspected to be blanks, and load each in turn through the gate. The loader may or may not leave an empty chamber under the hammer.

For loading dummy rounds, inspect each chamber, and then load each with dummy rounds. Point the gun at the ground, (and if you are Dr Fauci at a small dog,) then full cock and drop the hammer on each chamber.

There may be different procedures if the cylinder is pulled to load.

36 posted on 10/27/2021 11:47:17 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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Apologies for my ignorance but is it common practice to use a gun that can fire live rounds in movie making?

I'm not in the movie industry, but have to assume it is not common practice. There are several ways movie makers can get the effect of live fire without actually firing a gun with live rounds.

37 posted on 10/27/2021 11:49:21 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...)
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To: Avalon Memories

It is a cap and ball that has been “converted” to cartridge use. Looks like a Colt dragoon.

CC


38 posted on 10/27/2021 11:50:54 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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The entire story is from Baldwin’s Public Relations team, and his agents.

Dollars to donuts he was fooling around with the gun, and enjoying scaring peeps with his legendary temper.

The others there will never work again in the Industry if they speak up.

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39 posted on 10/27/2021 11:51:06 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (‘’)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

The affidavit by a cameraman said Baldwin was using and firing a loaded gun on the set during filming.

But of course, he was very cautious when firing...making sure no little kids were nearby.

What does that tell you?????

He was handed loaded weapons before by the prop people. How does he and the production team except intense scrutiny, lawsuits and charges?


40 posted on 10/27/2021 11:52:50 AM PDT by blackberry1
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