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To: Hostage
Still waiting on my hard copy of “Pentagon-0911”. But there is an on-line copy.

See https://history.defense.gov/portals/70/documents/pentagon/pentagon9-11.pdf


From your post 235, you write:

“Everything he said on video is factual.”

and you note:

“But then Wood went on to repeat what the investigation found, that there were no aircraft remains in the WTC or the Pentagon”

Neither of those statements are accurate when referring to aircraft remains at the Pentagon. From “Pentagon 09/11”:

1) From p. 19 - “Parts of the aircraft-including a tire part hurtled through the outer three rings of Pentagon offices, emerged from a so called "punch out" hole in the C Ring wall, and came to rest in A-E Drive. The planes voice recorder and flight data recorder were not recovered until several days later, 14 September.“

2) Between p. 82 and 83 - there is a photo titled “In A-E Drive, debris and airplane tire remnant”

3) From p. 160 - “The aircraft's flight data and cockpit voice recorders, the so~called"black boxes;' were found 14 September about 4:00 a.m. in the Pentagon near the hole in the inner C Ring wall”


From your post 261, you write:

“Wood referred to the official reports and those reports said no AC remains were found.”

1) Again, what “official reports” are you referring to? I’m using the report from the Historical Office of the OSD - it reports that AC remains were found.

and:

“All the usual fake news suspects chimed in with reports that AC remains were found but they were never proven.”

2) Yes, they were - see the report “Pentagon 09/11” and the answer above

“Wood is careful to make claims to facts backed by evidence. “

3) He isn’t in regards to AC remains in/near the Pentagon.


From your post 291:

“The OFFICIAL reports found no AC remains around WTC or the Pentagon.”

“The unofficial news stories were never proven.”

1) And again, that’s incorrect based on the report from the Historical Office of the OSD - it reports that AC remains were found.

2) And again, no idea what official reports you are referring to.


From your post 323:

“If a plane hit the Pentagon, where is the plane?

I wasn’t there so I don’t know.

But you apparently know everything. Were you there?

I wasn’t there so exactly who and what am I supposed to believe and why should I?

Why do people feel they can read something on the internet and come away knowing anything when they were never there to begin with?

There were photos and writing about finding AC debris but then there were people working in their offices inside the Pentagon who claim no AC debris was ever found. April Gallop is said to have literally climbed out of the wreckage of the Pentagon where the ‘plane’ hit saying there was zero AC debris.”

1) Please refer to the reference above from "Pentagon 09/11" - it reports that AC remains were found.


From your post 354:

“How do you know for sure? Were you an eye witness?
Are you saying people should believe what they didn’t see and hear?”

1) The vast, vast majority of people were not at the Pentagon, or WTC on 09/11. But as you point out that does not mean they can’t have a data informed viewpoint on what happened.

411 posted on 10/07/2021 10:47:04 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Pelham; Magnum44

Am pinging you to see my post to Hostage that indeed aircraft remains were found at and in the Pentagon. Just an FYI.


412 posted on 10/07/2021 10:48:26 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Fury

Oh how interesting. But sorry, history.defense.gov compiles oral interviews and is not an official accident investigative source.

Eye witness testimony for flash accidents is notoriously unreliable, every good detective and investigator knows this:

Expert explains why eyewitness testimonies can be unreliable in solving crimes
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/expert-explains-eyewitness-testimonies-unreliable-solving-crimes-51054920

Am I saying these oral interviews are a bunch of lies? No, I am saying I wasn’t there, I don’t know anything about what was witnessed because I wasn’t there.

Someone might say “But AC remains were recovered!”
I would respond “There are people that say differently.”
“You mean AC remains weren’t recovered?”
“I don’t know, I wasn’t there.”
“But you believe no AC parts were found!”
“No, I don’t believe that, I don’t disbelieve it, I wasn’t there, I am not a witness.”
“But there were witnesses to the plane hitting the Pentagon!”
“Well, I don’t doubt that but there were also reported to be witnesses who have a different view like this guy Bob Pugh in the following video”:

Pentagon Eyewitness Bob Pugh Tells His Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xtEJ4zrIPM
Is Bob Pugh in this video a moron or conspiracy theorist? He ‘seems’ reasonable to me but I can’t say one way or the other.

“A report was made that someone from the FBI recovered blackbox/flight recorders from Flight 77. You don’t believe that?”
“I can’t say they were recovered. I can say that someone said that someone said they were recovered.”

If someone criticized me for doubting an FBI connected person found the recorders, I would respond “Ever hear of James Comey? Andrew McCabe? Peter Strzok?”

Does that mean Lin Wood lied? No, it doesn’t. It means he has some explaining to do.
Could Lin be mistaken? He could be, do I know that he is? No.

If someone said a missile hit the Pentagon on 911, I would ask, “What happened to Barbara Olsen?” I would ask Lin this.

If someone said airliners crashing into the Twin Towers caused them to fall, I would ask, “What about WTC-8?”
If someone said you’re a kook because there is no WTC-8, I would say, “oh sorry, it was a typo, I meant WTC-7.”
“No, no you’re trying to lie you’re way out of it, you were caught saying a building that doesn’t exist fell on 911 la-la-la-la!”
I would say, “have fun.”

But what is clear is you took a history compilation off the internet and used it to push a view of something you didn’t see. Why didn’t you find the authoritative source, the NTSB investigation report?

It’s said the NTSB was ordered to be silent by the FBI. If that’s true, why? If the FBI has jurisdiction over the evidence found by the NTSB investigators, why haven’t they released it all by now? Some of it was released years after the fact. Does it’s partial release have something to do with what President Trump said? That we would learn who is really behind 911?

The point is you are not a witness in this but act like you are and you are judgmental about people that don’t follow your non-witness witness. Have fun being you.


414 posted on 10/07/2021 2:48:21 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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