[jmacusa]

Listen smart ass, those are my words. And your attempts at moral and historical relevance further makes your arguments insulting. The North ended slavery long before the South. The choose secession to maintain it. Let's stick to the subject at hand. The Civil War in America, 1861-65 and the reasons why the Confederacy started it. it.

[jeffersondem]

“Let's stick to the subject at hand. The Civil War in America, 1861-65 and the reasons why the Confederacy started it. it.”

Why the very narrow focus? Is it because you prefer to live in a vacuum?

I would like to discuss with you slave states prior to the 1861 war; specifically the slave states of New York, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, and Rhode Island.

Let's also discuss the slave states of Virginia, North and South Carolina and Georgia. I always like to cast four- thirteenths responsibility in that direction.

I value your personal opinions. Do you think the citizens in all those slave states were entitled to the unalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

Some people don't you know; and if you don't just say so.