The words “, under God,” was added after the Pledge of Allegiance was adopted by Congress.
Not at all relevant to the point you are attempting to address. The 14th amendment was badly written and not legitimately ratified. Adding “under God” to the pledge of allegiance has nothing to do with the comment to which you are responding.
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It has everything to do with the point I was making because you stated that the United States was founded as a Christian nation and yet “Under God”, these were were left out of the original Pledge of Allegiance. So yes it does because it addresses a talking point that people like to use when they state the United States was founded as a Christian country.
Your “no recourse” statement falls flat.
Point to the Articles in the original U.S. Constitution where it specifically mentions Jesus. We are talking original not Amendments aftter the founding.
Articles of Confederation was done away with. While it part of history it has no legality nor binding authority on the United States of America.
The United States Constitution does NOT mention Jesus. You are wrong. Nor does the Declaration of Independence. You are now making things up. A quick internet search on the full text of the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence will verify that. You need to do that instead of pulling crap out of thin air.
The Articles of Confederation has no bearing on the Uniteed States of America and the Federalist Papers Authors state.
Remember you said “this country was founded as a Christian nation” and now you want to quote the 14th Amendment which was fully ratified in July 1868, almost 100 years after the founding of the United States of America. Unless the I am mistaken the founding documents only include the Declaration of Independence, the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights (The first ten Amendments to the US Constitution). An Amendment ratified almost 100 years after the founding of the country does not predicate a founding document or Amendment.
By the way, The Federalist Papers have been used to set precedence in the SCOTUS. Why? Because they are the direct words of the authors of the founding documents. So in an indirect way they do have legal standing in a court of law because they are the direct words of the Founding Fathers.
The US Constitution replaced the Articles of Confederation which made the Articles of Confederation null and void in the new nation called the United States. Had you read the Federalist Papers, you would know this and why God was not part of the Founding documents.
The Founding documents of the United States of America include and are defined by 1) The Declaration of Independence, 2) The United States Constitution and 3) The Bill of Rights (The first ten Amendments).
The Bill of Rights is considered a founding document because states like Virginia would not join the Union and ratify the US Constitution unless the Bill of Rights was formed.
Again you want to point to the Articles of Confederation as a founding document. It was a precursor to but not an official founding document to the United States of America. “Lord” and “God” do not appear in the United States Constitution.
To eloborate a point you make, the Articles of Confederation has no standing in law of the United States of America, because it was not ratified by the states and two it was replaced by the US Constitution which was ratified. You can quote it all you want but it has no place in this discussion.
Again, the US Constitution, original up to and including the 10th Amendment, does not have the words, God or Lord anywhere in the document.
Lastly, your attempt to discredit me is is funny at best as you point away from the very words of the authors of the Articles of Confederation, the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
Your ill attempt to remove the Federalist Papers from the discussion is laughable at best by claiming it has not been codified into law yet it is the very explanation of the US Constitution which was ratified thus codifying it into law. Any lawyer or judge dealing with a case having to do with the US Constitution will reference the Federalist Papers to derive the original intent of the law because these are the direct words of the authors of the Founding documents.
Your ill attempt to show how the Articles of Confederation is a Founding Document is discredited by the Founding Fathers. Hamilton wrote that the Articles were “neither fit for war nor peace,” for they hobbled the fragile new nation that was struggling to defeat Britain despite its flimsy internal cohesion.
Madison wrote to George Washington
On the eve of the Constitutional Convention, Madison composed a memorandum for George Washington, head of the Virginia delegation, listing twelve principal “vices” of the Articles. The first eight itemized the generally accepted weaknesses of the national government (i.e., Congress), and the last four specified defects of the states’ laws—their multiplicity, mutability, injustice, and impotence. “The drafting of this memorandum,” writes Rakove, “was essential to Madison’s self-assigned task of formulating a working agenda that would allow the coming convention to hit the ground running.”3 And that it did. Madison’s “working agenda” spawned the Virginia Plan of Government that, with its emphasis on a strong national government in a federal system of checks and balances, provided the foundation of the U.S. Constitution. A challenging document it is, but one valued by Constitutional scholars and worth study. As Rakove stresses, “Vices” is a “truly remarkable as well as historic document. For one thing, it marks one of those rare moments in the history of political thought where one can actually glimpse a creative thinker at work, not by reading the final published version of his ideas, but by catching him at an earlier point, exploring a problem in the privacy of his study.”
Get that? The Founding Fathers felt the Articles were defective and they wanted to start over, thus forming a new government and nation in the process. Quit citing the Articles of the Confederation when even the Founding Fathers found them to be defective and needed to be tossed out! Not used not used as a founding document, discarded and done away with.
So far you have pointed to the Articles of Confederation as a founding document but I have shown it isn’t because it was defective in the eyes of Hamilton, Madison and Washington amongst others. I have pointed you to the Founding Documents that begat this Great Nation and yet you have discounted the very words of those who wrote those documents. No where in the Founding documents does the words, Lord, Jesus or God appear. The words “...their Creator...” was purposely used by Jefferson.
The original draft text, by Jefferson, of the Declaration was
“We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and independent; that from that equal creation they derive in rights inherent and unalienables, among which are the preservation of life, and liberty and the pursuit of happiness”
Which was changed later by suggestion from either Adams, Franklin, or both or all five authors of the texts before submittal to Congress in 1787. So even the original version of the Declaration of Independence did not use the words God/Lord or Jesus.
The Articles of Confederation were discarded and the Founding Fathers threw it out as if it were yesterdays trash because it was very defective in their eyes. I state Madison here because it was tasked with Madison to FIX the Articles of Confederation. He tried in vain for three years. Not one state ratified the Articles of Confederation thus even though people like to claim it was the first Constitution, it was not. More like it was a document for one purpose, to win the Revolutionary War and thus merely an interim document with no standing once the US Constitution was adopted and ratified.
So please go away with this country was founded on Christianity when the Founders wanted nothing to do with what was happening in Britain at the time and wanted to distance themselves from Britain.
The Federalist papers are the very words of the authors of the US COnstitution and Declaration of Independence and they hold legal weight in a court of law because it is the direct words not interpretation and it was those minds that codified Organic Law.
The Articles of Confederation is not considered a founding document of the United States of America for very good reason, it was defective in the eyes of our Founding Fathers.
I have not mislead anyone, only the Church and people like you who try to use the US Constitution to proselytize. There are other religions out there and Christians always forget that. Not everyone believes as a Christian and Christianity stole from other religions for its beliefs. The beliefs of Christianity are not unique and God set down more than 10 laws and commandments or do you need to read the Books of Moses again to understand this. These laws were not unique to just the Jews and Christians, there were predecessors just like the United States used the Ancient Civilizations of the Greeks and Romans to form a more perfect nation. This is not a new concept.
So sick of people like you trying to instill and perpetuate lies when they are not factual. The Articles of Confederation were thrown out and the United States Constitution formed a new nation not predicated on the Articles of Confederation. Think of the Articles of Confederation as a mulligan, we started over because the document was defective.
Gonna skip you. Doesn’t look like you wrote anything worth reading.