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To: DiogenesLamp
Or take school prayer or the pledge of allegiance. Another consequence of the badly written, not legitimately ratified and badly abused 14th amendment. The words ", under God," was added after the Pledge of Allegiance was adopted by Congress. Which brings me to the next point: The country was founded as a Christian nation, and those who don't like it really have no legitimate recourse in the same manner that it was founded as a slave nation, and those who didn't like it had no legitimate recourse. (Other than amendment. Apparently you have not read The Federalist Papers which literally refutes this point. The five authors of the Federalist Papers state that this country was not founded as a Christian nation and they point to two words found within the Declaration of Independence as their proof and note that they also state that the word "God" appears no where in the United States Constitution. The twwo words that Madison specifically states as why this nation was not founded as a Christian nation was the words"..., your Creator,". Most Christians view this as the authors of the Declaration of Independence meant the Christian or Jewish God, Madison states it means no such thing as it was changed to "your Creator" in order to be inclusive to all peoples not just Christians or Jews. The contest for this deals with what was happening in Britain at the time of the Colonies in the United States. If you don't know, then you only know part of United States history. The United States was not founded on Christianity or Judaism, it was founded using the principles of Ancient Greek and the Romans to which the Authors of the Federalist Papers espouse. Also there was an author, Locke, that many of the founding fathers had read and was influenced by was another influential figure in the creation of this country. The exact work by Locke was the Second Treatise of Government. Every learned man of the day was familiar with Locke's writings. The statement that the United States was founded as a Christian nation is a misnomer perpetrated by Christians in efforts to proselytize and gain followers. It is completely 100 percent false statement. I know because I used to say the same thing until I found out it was another lie by the Church.
565 posted on 08/12/2021 2:10:17 AM PDT by zaxtres (`)
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To: zaxtres
The words ", under God," was added after the Pledge of Allegiance was adopted by Congress.

Not at all relevant to the point you are attempting to address. The 14th amendment was badly written and not legitimately ratified. Adding "under God" to the pledge of allegiance has nothing to do with the comment to which you are responding.

Apparently you have not read The Federalist Papers which literally refutes this point.

What part of the Federalist Papers is codified law? Apparently *YOU* have not read the section of the US Constitution which specifically exempts the President from working on Sundays (because it violates the sabbath) and the section acknowledging "Our Lord", which is Jesus Christ.

Since the US constitution specifically mentions Jesus, and the Articles of Confederation and Declaration of Independence do as well, it becomes clear to any objective viewer that the nation was founded as a specifically and explicitly Christian nation.

they also state that the word "God" appears no where in the United States Constitution.

In the Articles of Confederation, It says "Our Lord" and it also says "the Great Governor of the World".

The US Constitution says "Our Lord" meaning Jesus Christ, and it exempts the President from working on Sunday, which is the Christian Sabbath day. Additionally, in 1787, many states still had official state religions, and this is the reason they didn't want to establish an official Federal religion. It would blow apart the coalition.

Now your effort to say "the word "God" appears no where in the United States Constitution." is a deliberate effort to mislead, and is therefore tantamount to an intentional lie. No it doesn't say "God", but it D@mn well uses a substitute term that means the same thing in the Christian religion.

I'm not going to bother reading any further of your dreck. You are racking up a score card of being wrong and I haven't got time to fool with pretentious people who are so sloppy in their understanding of history.

571 posted on 08/12/2021 11:13:41 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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