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To: Pikachu_Dad

The democrats HAD BEEN IN CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT until Lincoln was elected!


The demoncraps were split in the 1850s. Buchanon was a Whig not a demoncrap. The Republicans won plurality in the House in 1858. Lincoln was elected in 1860. The Senate was demoncrap. So no the demoncraps did not have control of Government until Lincoln was elected. So please do your research. And the demoncraps were so intensely divided that Northern demoncraps sided with the Whigs and Republicans.

There was such a divide that had Lincoln lost the Southern demoncraps were set to turn over every law that Congress had enacted since the 1830s. Buchanon was castigated for letting the South secede. If the demoncraps were in control of government then why did the South secede? That makes no sense. Nor is it logical. Redo your research. The Compromise of 1850 was Whig not demoncrap because the South wanted to expand slavery to the West.


316 posted on 07/30/2021 8:53:53 PM PDT by zaxtres (`)
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To: zaxtres

Not even close.

“ The presidency of James Buchanan began on March 4, 1857, when James Buchanan was inaugurated as President of the United States, and ended on March 4, 1861. Buchanan, a Democrat from Pennsylvania, took office as the 15th United States president after defeating former President Millard Fillmore of the American Party, and John C. Frémont of the Republican Party in the 1856 presidential election.”


317 posted on 07/30/2021 11:07:29 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: zaxtres

Roflol ! Please, be serious !

“ There was such a divide that had Lincoln lost the Southern demoncraps were set to turn over every law that Congress had enacted since the 1830s. ”


318 posted on 07/30/2021 11:08:49 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: zaxtres

The democrat party split into two in 1860 election.

“ The Northern Democratic Party was a leg of the Democratic Party during the 1860 presidential election, when the party split in two factions because of disagreements over slavery. They held two conventions before the election, in Charleston and Baltimore, where they established their platform.”


319 posted on 07/30/2021 11:11:06 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: zaxtres

Seriously ?

“ If the demoncraps were in control of government then why did the South secede? That makes no sense. ”

In 1860, the democrats lost the House and the Presidency.

They still controlled the Senate and the Judiciary.

Geez.


320 posted on 07/30/2021 11:12:59 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: zaxtres

The democrats paid a heavy price for their pushing the Kansas-Nebraska act in 1854 - and breaking the Missouri compromise.

“ Congress had passed the Kansas–Nebraska Act in May 1854 after aggressive sponsorship by the Pierce Administration and Democrats led by Illinois Senator Stephen Douglas, including radical pro-slavery legislators.

The Act repealed the 1820 Missouri Compromise and triggered the Bleeding Kansas conflict. With widely foreseen risks and immediately negative results, the Act publicly discredited the Democratic Party, fueling new partisan and sectional rancor.

It created violent uncertainty on the frontier by abruptly making slavery potentially legal in territories originally comprising the northern portion of the Louisiana Purchase and attractive to contemporary settlers. Settlers were expected to determine the status of slavery locally. This idea appealed to Democratic politicians and to some voters in its shape and intent, but proved unworkable in Kansas where the status of slavery would be violently disputed between more numerous Northern settlers and geographically closer Southern settlers.

Even some pro-slavery legislators and voters, particularly Southern Whigs, felt repealing the Missouri Compromise was politically reckless and attempting to push slavery by law and force into territories where most settlers predictably were unlikely to want it endangered its continued legal protection anywhere, even in the South.

These fears proved prescient.


321 posted on 07/30/2021 11:18:51 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: zaxtres; Pikachu_Dad
Buchanon was a Whig not a demoncrap

Buchanan was of course a Democrat, as was Pierce before him.

If the demoncraps were in control of government then why did the South secede? That makes no sense. Nor is it logical.

Because they thought that Lincoln's election meant that they were losing control of the government.

The Compromise of 1850 was Whig not demoncrap because the South wanted to expand slavery to the West.

It was a bipartisan compromise. Taylor and his successor Fillmore were Whigs. Both houses of Congress were narrowly controlled by Democrats. Henry Clay, a Whig, put the compromise together. Stephen Douglas, a Democrat, got it through Congress. Southern Democrat militants weren't happy with the compromise. Neither were Northern abolitionists.

326 posted on 07/31/2021 6:58:54 AM PDT by x
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