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To: Pikachu_Dad

Notice he makes no mention of the Democrats actions regarding slavery... Just the Republicans.

“It is also worth pointing out that the North did not attempt to use the war to end slavery until several years in and then half-heartedly at that. “

It was the democrats who initiate the secession and the war OVER SLAVERY.


3 posted on 07/26/2021 4:43:10 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

The Civil War was not over the slave but of the secession of the Southern States. Lincoln was said to have grave consternation on freeing the slaves. And it wasn’t until after the Battle of Gettysburg, over 2 years, July 1863, from the start of the war, that Lincoln gave his famous speech the Emancipation Proclamation. Lincoln was determined to keep the states united and that is what he set out to do. When asked about his decision to free the slaves, he quoted Madison who believed and wrote as much that the United States was destined to bloody conflict when the final colony ratified the Constitution. Lincoln also said (paraphrasing) that we could not be equal as in the Declaration if fellow men were enslaved. That was his decision to issue the Emancipation Proclamation.

If the war was over slavery then Lincoln should have freed them at the beginning of the war, he did not.

In the Declaration of Independence, per Madison, the word “slave” was purposefully omitted and we know what was put in its place.

Some other issues the Civil War originations lie in were the Sovereign State Laws in the 1850s. This law said that when a territory entered the Union to form a state, the citizens of that state could decide whether or not that state would be a free state or a slave state. This ultimately turned into a bloody conflict which led to the Harper’s Ferry incident/raid then to the first shot being fired at Ft. Sumter.

Besides Sovereign States Law, the Southern States were counting on the Democrat candidate to win the Presidency. Lincoln won as a member of a new party called the Republican Party. Lincoln is erroneously referred to as the Father of the Republican Party. Before Lincoln was elected, the Southern States took offense to a plethora of laws Congress was passing from the 1830s to the War in 1861. States claimed that the Federal Government was grabbing power from the States that was not present in the Constitution. When Lincoln won and was sworn in in March (April?) 1861 this lit the fuse to the Civil War and there was nothing either side could do.

Claiming the Civil War was over slavery is wrong and people have been taught wrong in the publik ejumukashun system. Lincoln as a candidate never said he would free the slaves and even as President he had no will to free the slaves. This is one of the biggest lies about the Civil War and President Abraham Lincoln.


14 posted on 07/26/2021 5:11:58 PM PDT by zaxtres (`)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
It was the democrats who initiate the secession and the war OVER SLAVERY.

No, that is the propaganda we have been fed in the intervening 150 years to justify why a bunch of states invaded other states and killed people because those states wanted to leave the Union.

The war had absolutely nothing to do with slavery. We've just been taught that crap all our lives.

39 posted on 07/26/2021 9:16:50 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Much of the reason for secession was over tariffs, which affected everyone there, not slavery.

The South exported their cotton to England, and wanted British manufactured goods in return.

Fort Sumter was fired upon, because its main purpose was enforcement of tariff collection on ships entering Charleston harbor.

https://mises.org/library/lincolns-tariff-war


78 posted on 07/27/2021 9:09:41 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

They understood that slaves had been freed in rebel territory in 1863, right?

But the institution of slavery had to be abolished at a Federal level to make it applicable to all of the states. That takes time…like anything else.

But the people writing these stories are morons.


247 posted on 07/28/2021 10:15:17 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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