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To: DiogenesLamp
This is like saying when an obnoxious large bully gets in your face and threatens to whip your @$$ and then swings a punch at you, (Lincoln's war fleet was the "punch" which Lincoln swung at them) then you punch him in the nose first, *YOU* started it? No. The guy that took the first swing started it.

Any other asinine analogies you would like to submit?

210 posted on 07/28/2021 2:30:08 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Analogies or otherwise, it’s always asinine.


217 posted on 07/28/2021 3:54:10 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: DoodleDawg

I am sure it has plenty of more asinine claims to make.

That was why they positioned all of those batteries around the fort. They were getting all their small friends lined up for the ‘bully’ to show up.

Let’s see…

“On Thursday, April 11, 1861, Beauregard sent three aides, Colonel James Chesnut, Jr., Captain Stephen D. Lee, and Lieutenant A. R. Chisolm to demand the surrender of the fort. Anderson declined, and the aides returned to report to Beauregard.”

“After Beauregard had consulted the Confederate Secretary of War, Leroy Walker, he sent the aides back to the fort and authorized Chesnut to decide whether the fort should be taken by force. The aides waited for hours while Anderson considered his alternatives and played for time. At about 3:00 a.m., when Anderson finally announced his conditions, Colonel Chesnut, after conferring with the other aides, decided that they were “manifestly futile and not within the scope of the instructions verbally given to us.” The aides then left the fort and proceeded to the nearby Fort Johnson.”

“ There, Chesnut ordered the fort to open fire on Fort Sumter.[8]:59–60”


221 posted on 07/28/2021 4:33:24 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: DoodleDawg
A woman tells her abusive husband she is divorcing him. He grabs her arm. (Fort Sumter) She tells him to let her go or she's gonna smack him. He raises his fist to strike, and she punches him in the nose.

They fight. She tries screaming for help from the neighbors, but they feel it's a problem between husband and wife, and they don't help. She gets in a few good hits, but he is stronger and more powerful.

He then proceeds to beat her nearly to death, breaking bones, blacking eyes and leaving her laying on the floor in a crumpled heap. He then mocks her for being weak, and tells her it's her fault because she dared try to leave him. He lies to everybody, saying he beat her because she was bad, and not because she was trying to leave him. He then continuously tells everyone she deserved the beating she got.

222 posted on 07/28/2021 4:41:17 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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