ransomnote wrote: “So, I believe the actual number of deaths following Covid vaccination is actually hundreds of times larger. I say hundred because the CDC is withholding records of adverse events following Covid ‘vaccination’.”
DugwayDuke wrote: You’ve made several unstated assumptions.
First, you’re assuming that data from 10 years ago remains valid.
The circumstances have actually gotten worse.
The Database was 20 years old at the time it was determind to be housing a tiny fraction of actual events.
Having used the interface to generate reports, I can attest to it's poor maintenance. It has redundant fields, both of which much be addressed or information drops out of searches. I get different search results for no reason when selecting inocuous choices.
The CDC says it takes 4 to 6 weeks to vett reports received, but I find hundreds of records which don't list the vaccine for which the record is filed - it just says 'unknown'. But if I search the event description field I see the words 'covid'. The same is true for other fields identified as 'unknown'. The information is present but ignored, missing fields which harm search results cause records to be ignored.
A basic, inexcusable of intentional poor design and neglect is that the CDC states it will not update records after first enterred.
So a person undergoing an ER visit, cardiac arrest/stroke has record of an adverse event the same day as 'vaccination'. Once the report is filed, no further record updates will occurr so if they die the next day, next week, next month VAERS is not updated. If they spiral from the point of vaccination through worsening conditions which began the day of injection to the point of death 2 months later, VAERS is not updated.
This is the intentional decision of the CDC given the responsibility of monitoring experimental 'vaccines' with limited testing and no long term data. HOW could VAERS be an accurate record of adverse events if, after harrowing accounts of near death experiences the day of injection, the records are never updated? A person paralyzed, with stroke and heart failure is transferred out of ER and we're to assume all went well from then on? SOmeone has zero platelets and massive cranial clots is assumed to have recovered after transfer to the stroke ward?
The database design and continued decision to not update records is suspicious when you consider all the 'neutral' records of injection medical staff have enterred for young people 'accidentally' injected ('didn't know they weren't old enough'). The records for many teens say, "No adverse event, student was too young" or 'wrong dose' or other error. Now, if ANYTHING happens to those students, there's already a record there so a new adverse event can't be enterred, nor one updated.
Sometimes the CD updates records because they have been detected going in and replacing reports of Covid deaths with entirely different content. The VAERS ID for the patient is the same, the record content is entirely different. This has not been reported for vaccines in the past. Everything is new and worse for the most politicized Plandemic in history, otherwise known as 'biowarfare'.
Watching the absolute censorship and intimidation of medical staff at levels never seen before can inform a rational person that participation in VAERS reporting is unlikely to go up for Covid 'vaccines'. After preventing doctors from writing prescriptions, and physicians being threatened, fired for departing from Fauci talking points, it really is safe to assume participation has decreased.
I've watched a video walkthrough of filing an online VAERS report and marvel at it's poor design. The program logs you out without warning every 20 minutes even though you have so much data to file. Doctors, patients, or the family members of the deceased report not being able to file a report when trying to call in their data. The CDC is not picking up the phone. IS that due to politics? Or is it becaue they are overwhelmed? EIther answer points to a reasonable assumption that this is wore than 2010 research revealed.
There are no published documents stating the CDC's decision to address the problems with reporting that Harvard identified. No public statements about how this will be addressed, no request for funds to make urgently needed updates to VAERS. ALl I see is online demands by vax supporters that VAERS be ignored.
We've never seen the impacts on medical resources and staff like those with Covid. In the past 10 years, insurance companies have continued to tighten time requirements and forced medical staff to streamline oprations and then lockdowns deeply curtailed resources.
With Covid, we are told for the first time in our nation's history that that hospitals and other medical facilities are exhausted of resources, diagnostics and elective surgery were unavailable and are still limited etc. Obviously there are less staff hours avaiable to file reports of adverse events with the CDC.
Reading physicians' accounts of their research includes comments that doctors don't have time, in addition to the CDC just not picking up the phone. I've been told that's because they never anticipated so many reports of adverse events for a vaccine before. Why is it hard to 'assume' that in the past 6 months, when Covid reports make up more than 1 out of every 3 reports in VAERS 30 year history, that it's not just the CDC having a hard time keeping up with reporting, and that those reporting are not able to keep up as never before in history as well?
Second, you’re assuming that reporting failures across all possible adverse reactions are applicable to deaths.
Actually, those tracking CDC reports are able to demonstrate that the CDC is publishing reports selectively and withholding records. The CDC is weaponized, pushing the vax hard and lying about safety. It is reasonable to suspect them to avoid publishing anything they believe will contribute to 'vaccine hesitancy'. That's a new crime the CDC and captured medical establishment has begun to threaten people with - 'contributing to vaccine hesitancy'.
Right now more than 1 out of 3 adverse events reports in VAERS is for Covid vaccines, but socially people expect to feel awful and have adverse events and think it's normal. Fever, muscle aches, nausea, blinding headaches - these are dismissed as 'normal' by those vaccinated and MANY are not reporting them. IN the trials, as many as 80% of participants reported adverse events, that's why some researchers note they don't meet the standard for 'double blind trials' because the participants knew if they felt awful, they didn't have the placebo.
VAERS isn't the only passive, underuitilized system the CDC is using to collect Covid 19 adverse event data. To avoid having 'nasty reports' show up in VAERS, the CDC provided every vaccine recipient with a document, which most ignored, to invite them to report any adverse events to V-Safe, an internal database only available to CDC staff. You see how that works? Keep the information private so it doesn't show up in VAERS.
FReeper Cathi provided the following info about V-safe :
Someone dug into it and this info is interesting.
She found that “Everyone who gets vaccinated will be encouraged to register for the V-SAFE tool.”. Fun fact, she read the pamphlet and registered. I was told nothing and of course I read nothing so didn’t register. So I wondered what the conversion rate was.
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She found the following: “More than 90 million Americans have received at least one shot, yet the CDC’s v-safe monitoring program has only 6 million participants”. That’s a 6.6% conversion rate. At least does everything reported get to VAERS?
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“Anyone who reports a clinically important event — missing work, being unable to do normal daily activities or receiving medical care — will get a follow-up phone call and a report may be filed in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)”
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So basically, it relies on self-reporting, and then being able to answer a call, and then (something) “may” be filed as a report to VAERS. What percentage of events are we supposing is going in to VAERS here? My intent is not to create fears of vaccines, but this is madness.
Alexandros Marinos
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If, as a startup founder, I cared about collecting the data in my pipeline, and my analytics team showed up with this system as representative, they would no longer be my analytics team. This is not what one does when they truly want to gather all data.
Oh and there's the CDC's HOW TO FILE A REPORT WITH VAERS webpage which provides a linked PDF of 'reportable events'. The vaccines and effects for those vaccines are listed in a table. The comprehensive list of 'reportable events/vaccines' does not include Covid vaccines. Everyone accessing the CDC's webpage will find that Covid-19 vaccines are not on the list of events reportable to VAERS.
Since other vaccines (e.g., polio, pertusis) are on the list of reportable events, it's reasonable to believe this has discouraged some wishing to report Covid 'vaccine' adverse events to VAERS. This was still true about 2 weeks ago - so throughout Covid vaccine administration, the public has been given access to a document indicating their adverse events following Covid vaccinations are not reportable. It's fair to assume this impact is disproportionate and does not constitute any sort of improvement over 2010 rates of reporting, given that those Covid 'vaccine' records that DO get published in VAERS already account of over a third of all VAERS reports.
The CDC and others in gov and state/local officials have CERTAINLY gotten the message out that they want you to have the vaccine. Have they made the same effort to tell you to use V-safe or VAERS, or that both exist and you should report to both systems? Are there constant warnings informercials and pressure on your employer to make you register any adverse events with both V-SAFE and VAERS? Is Biden going to have feds go door to door to make sure patients, doctors and other medical staff are reporting to VAERS, and/ patients reporting to V-safe? Or are there social and professional threats to all those implying that the vaccine is responsible for harm?
Third, you’re assuming that these 900,000 deaths would not show up in excess mortality statistics.
IOW, your analysis is highly questionable.
My analysis is highly unpopular, not highly questionable. I don't know how many deaths there are but they have to be far, far above the 9000 deaths reported in VAERS for all the reasons given.
We are now living in a Biden administration and they would naturally control what information is released in terms of mortality statistics. Those conducting biowarfare on the US by coaxing us to get a toxic, unnecessary 'vaccines' containing biowarfare agents were just smart enough not to tell us.
The CDC has a curious little 'misc' field in the mortality stats they do release which contains 50,000 deaths with the note 'cause undetermind'. This is new. There's a hint. I mean, those who counted and reported the votes for the 2020 election are now counting and reporting the deaths.
The CDC wildly inflates death statistics for Covid, only 5% of the total died from Covid alone and that's according to a fake Covid test which does not identify the virus or the illness in people. The PCR has a 97% false positive rate - why would an adminstration lying, locking down and threatening the public not lie about mortality rates? Conscience? Hah!
It's biological warfare and they need our compliance because we outnumber them. Therefore, they are not going to tell us what they are doing or how many are dying. And as for deaths, all those still alive and vaccinated are still at risk - it's not over yet. Who knows what the true toll will be.
The information that does leak out past the gatekeepers is appalling and has always been enough to halt administration.
The chart I post compares year on year deaths. What will the chart look like at the end of 2021 given we're just at the halfway point?
