Jessie Czebotar, multiple interviews describing Pency Wency on the light side of the System (search for me ar FR and JessieC and two males on Ward and James Grundvig https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3956682/posts?page=366#366.
Other survivor(s) too as I recall.
I’m listening to it now they have good sources and I follow Charlie and Simon Parkes as much as I can as time permits. They both are good sources. Once again if any of us Freepers are “looking for 100% in any of these sources” forget it. Just does not happen. If you search enough you can put together what is right and what is wrong.