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Arizona's Maricopa County won't use any voting machines confiscated for GOP election 'audit'
The Week via Yahoo ^ | 6/29/21 | Peter Weber

Posted on 06/29/2021 3:35:59 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: poobear

Zackly.


21 posted on 06/29/2021 5:16:21 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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They should switch to the huge mechanical voting booths .


22 posted on 06/29/2021 5:20:19 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: Libloather
Tainted machines resulted in a stolen election?

If they weren't tainted before the election then they are now. Scrap them and replace.

23 posted on 06/29/2021 5:26:46 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Recovering_Democrat
If the state legislature AUTHORIZED the transfer, the CHAIN OF CUSTODY was NOT broken, as it was done at the direction of the body with the power to direct the action.

I assume they're talking about what happened after they turned the machines and ballots over. Nobody knows who all had contact with them, much less custody of them.

24 posted on 06/29/2021 5:28:20 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: ifinnegan

It sounding like the machines were tainted before the election, not from the audit.


25 posted on 06/29/2021 5:38:06 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: Libloather

they are admitting that their certification of machines is a joke


26 posted on 06/29/2021 6:05:01 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: poobear

They’ll just get “fresh” democrat tainted machines?\

Exactly.

( and more $ laundered kickback/bribes)

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27 posted on 06/29/2021 6:05:34 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: TheCipher
When the machine are returned, all they have to do is take a hash of the software. If it didn’t change, it was not tampered with.

You are correct. The Democrats and their RINO friends are claiming that they don't have the ability to determine if the software on the machines is the correct, Dominion installed software or not. But that's an incredible admission if they aren't just lying.

If they really can't determine if the software on the machines is correct, then they never have known what software is on the machines, and they can't even run the tests that were supposedly run when the machines were certified.

So we have the Arizona Secretary of State either admitting that they can't determine if the Dominion machines they used in 2020 were actually running the EAC certified software, and therefore they can't test the machines now, or that the hashes published by Dominion and the US government are not sufficient to validate that the software on the machines is correct.

As you noted, if they were ever able to validate that the correct set of executable files were on the machine they should be able to re-run the same test to validate that the machines still have the same code present.

If they can't validate the code now then they never could, since the hash values needed are in a public document published by the US Government.

28 posted on 06/29/2021 6:11:46 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Libloather
So ... it IS possible to manipulate the voting machines to perpetuate fraud.

Game. Set. Match.

Lawyer up Maricopa County. Make sure you get good criminal defense attorneys.

29 posted on 06/29/2021 6:11:50 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: poobear

Exactly!

Just-Us demands Democrat-kleptaucracy.


30 posted on 06/29/2021 6:14:19 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: DoodleDawg
Nobody knows who all had contact with them, much less custody of them.

That statement is false. During the audit the location and who had access to the machines has been well documented.

Moreover, it should not matter. Voting machines which are certified by the US government must pass tests that determine if all of the software present on the machines is exactly the same as the software provided to the US government approved testing lab.

31 posted on 06/29/2021 6:14:57 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: poobear

NAILED IT!


32 posted on 06/29/2021 6:25:44 AM PDT by dforest (huh?)
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To: mewzilla

Good idea, dumb machines for dumb voters.


33 posted on 06/29/2021 6:27:20 AM PDT by dforest (huh?)
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To: freeandfreezing
That statement is false. During the audit the location and who had access to the machines has been well documented.

There have been reports to the contrary. I assume that whatever report Cyber Ninjas issues with their findings will detail the chain of custody from their end.

Moreover, it should not matter. Voting machines which are certified by the US government must pass tests that determine if all of the software present on the machines is exactly the same as the software provided to the US government approved testing lab.

Isn't that one of the questions this whole Cyber Ninja audit is supposed to clear up? Whether or not there was software on the machine that escaped the government tests? Even if none was found during the audit there is no way of guaranteeing software wasn't added when the machine was out of the hands of the Maricopa County officials. Far safer to scrap the machines and replace them.

34 posted on 06/29/2021 7:08:29 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Libloather

When the state Senate subpoenaed the machines, compelling the county to turn over about 400 tabulating machines and 2.1 million ballots, that broke the chain of custody.


No. The County refusing to retain chain of custody while complying with the audit is what broke chain of custody. And what about certification of machines?


35 posted on 06/29/2021 7:14:05 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Libloather

Would be interesting to see the County’s position on paying Dominion if/when the audit results show massive discrepancies. Why would Maricopa County pay D for flawed equipment? Why would the AZ legislature pay the County to replace flawed equipment? D will argue that the operators committed the fraud. But D provided the operator too. Oops. Going to be some interesting litigation.


36 posted on 06/29/2021 7:20:04 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: DoodleDawg
Even if none was found during the audit there is no way of guaranteeing software wasn't added when the machine was out of the hands of the Maricopa County officials.

Your statement is incorrect. The entire process of certifying voting machines and trusting them at all depends on being able to verify that the software loaded on the machines is the same as the tested, certified software. Nobody is depending on the county officials to somehow be magic guardians of correctness. How would they do that?

In reality studies around the world show that election fraud in almost universally done by government officials and politicians. A system which depends on the election officials to ensure that the software on the machines they use is correct, and operating according to the source code examined by certification labs without them having the ability to verify that the code on their machines is the same as the certified code is absurd.

The exact same tests that everyone is relying on to determine what software is running on the election systems will instantly identify any changes made by anyone to the election systems. Anyone who says that they can not depend on those tests, if they aren't lying, just invalidated the entire certification process.

If the county, working with Dominion, can't ensure that the voting machines are in the exact same configuration that they were before the audit regardless of what anyone did to them at the audit, then they have never had the ability to ensure that they knew what code was actually running on the machines. But they already signed documents stating the opposite and filed them with the federal government.

So either the Arizona Secretary of State is lying now, or Dominion was lying to the federal government.

37 posted on 06/29/2021 7:54:41 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Libloather

So they admit the machines can be tampered with. 🤔


38 posted on 06/29/2021 7:58:37 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: joshua c
they are admitting that their certification of machines is a joke

I think the Democrat Secretary of State's desire to generate a PR narrative and to create a reason to block any audits in the future caused her to forget that her claims did just what you said. If Arizona and Dominion can't run a simple test to identify if the code on the election machines is the same as what they had certified then they have never known what code was actually on the machines, and if it was even the same as the certified code.

In reality the tests do exist, and the Arizona Democrats are just lying, but taking their statements at face value they just admitted that the statements made to get the certifications had to be false.

Here is the AZ SOS's list of voting machines by county.

Here is one set of publicly available hashes for election system software.

Here is a list of federally certified voting systems. Detailed test reports are published which list the software and hardware components used in the systems.

39 posted on 06/29/2021 8:17:30 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Libloather

Reports from around the news world.....(depressing all around)

CBS headline
Maricopa County’s partisan ballot review in final stages

Arizona Republic
Maricopa County election audit is clean? That must mean fraud!

USA Today
Fact check: No evidence election audit in Maricopa County has found widespread election fraud


40 posted on 06/29/2021 11:41:32 AM PDT by Nifty
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