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Boeing 777x realistically will not win certification approval before mid-2023 – U.S. FAA
Bedrock!Brief ^ | David Shepardson

Posted on 06/27/2021 12:38:10 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods

The letter cites numerous concerns about lack of data and the lack of a preliminary safety assessment for the FAA to review.

“The FAA will not approve any aircraft unless it meets our safety and certification standards,” the agency said in a statement Sunday.

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To: SaxxonWoods

Why not approve on an “experimental basis”, like the vaccines? It’s not everybody has fly on this one plane, just take volunteers
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Then, if the plane should happen to ‘fall out of the sky’, the manufacturer will not be held liable and the victims will be told they didn’t REALLY have to go if they didn’t want to even though they were ‘coerced’ into boarding with free baseball tickets, lottery tickets, tacos etc etc etc

Then when it all falls apart, the Government can just say oh well, the ‘science’ said it would work so it must be the fault of PDJT and ‘white supremacists’

Or something along that line


21 posted on 06/27/2021 2:10:41 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "Message to GOP "GO FUnd YOURSELF")
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To: BobL

Southwest has been popular but I think he was not talking about anything a customer would see, he was talking either employee treatment or safety. My wife didn’t like them because of the seating thing. They got a 4 star rating below.

Here are the 2021 airline ratings. It would be easier if they just told us who sucks:

https://apex.aero/awards/official-airline-ratings/2021-official-airline-ratings-recipients/

Alaska Airlines is apparently awesome. Also, there more active licensed pilots in Alaska than in any other state.


22 posted on 06/27/2021 2:25:29 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: BobL

The core problem with the Max is similar to the fighter from the 80’s with the reverse swept wings. It’s so inherently unstable it can’t maintain level flight without constant computer intervention.

Meanwhile you can safely perform a manual controlled dead stick landing with several normally configured jetliners.

A 737 Max without power is a lawn dart.


23 posted on 06/27/2021 4:28:05 PM PDT by MercyFlush (A wise man once said nothing. )
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To: monkeyshine

The difference is basically the wing. The 777x wing is significantly larger than the 777.

I have flown on a 777 several times. Very, very nice flight. No complaints. Have not flown on a 787...yet.

Full disclosure: 32-year Boeing (retired) electrical engineer.


24 posted on 06/27/2021 4:56:39 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: DennisR

Thanks. Is the 777x similar in concept to the 737 Max? Meaning, they tried to fit larger more fuel efficient engines onto the fuselage but had to reinforce/enlarge the wings and reposition the engines to accommodate?


25 posted on 06/27/2021 8:21:46 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

Do not know about that.


26 posted on 06/27/2021 9:30:54 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: 6AL-4V

Huh? A rational and true comment? 👍🏻👍🏻


27 posted on 06/27/2021 9:34:03 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: BobL

“…clueless…”? Really? How so?


28 posted on 06/27/2021 9:35:50 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Alaska is based in Seattle.


29 posted on 06/27/2021 9:36:54 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: monkeyshine
Meaning, they tried to fit larger more fuel efficient engines onto the fuselage but had to reinforce/enlarge the wings and reposition the engines to accommodate?

The 777X does not appear to have that particular aerodynamic stability problem - but the issue of an uncommanded downward pitch initiated by the flight control software is similar. Maybe it’s just a minor glitch and easy to fix, but given the 737 MAX crashes happened so recently the FAA has no choice but to put on a display of hyper-cautiousness.

30 posted on 06/28/2021 6:45:25 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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