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To: CottonBall
We know the election was stolen, and all I’m hearing is we just have to let it stay that way. That’s ridiculous. I’m not a legal scholar so I don’t know the options, but do you really think we have none? Throwing out the fraudulent votes, for one, and then recounting sounds reasonable to me. Why would anyone let fraudulent votes stay in the count anyway, that’s absurd. That’s easier and cheaper than a new election, but that is another option.

I don’t know of anyone who has said ‘we just have to let it stay that way’. I certainly hope people aren’t assuming what a person is trying to say vs. what that person has stated. What I have heard, and myself have tried to make clear, is that it’s going to be very difficult if not impossible for it to be changed. Even if it does happen, the fight’s not over. Half the country won’t accept a reversal.

I’m not a legal scholar either, but one thing I do know is you can ask two equally qualified lawyers their opinion about something and those opinions can be polar opposite. Only one of them can be correct. No one here knows what the outcome will be despite slinging around legal terms; I wonder if they’ve read the cases they’re waving like a magic wand.

If it only impacts the people of the state, then the SC was right that Texas had no standing. I don’t buy that for a second. MI, PA, AZ, and GA are all looking at doing audits - when Trump wins those, does it come to 270? Why are you looking at just one state and saying he still won’t get 270, when you know there are other audits out there.

Because those audits aren’t done yet. They’re not PROVEN, nor do we know what action that state will or won’t do once the audit is done. I don’t believe in counting eggs before they hatch.

The blood of our forefathers has certainly been watered down in today’s generation. They didn’t back down, and all they had was increased taxes. WE have a proven stolen election, fascism being enforced at a rapid pace, and everyone is fine with it.

A third of our forefathers fought for the other side, and a third didn’t want the fight at all. Actually sounds about the current breakdown of the population.

WELL I’M NOT. If we need a 2nd revolution, so be it. But certainly there a legal avenues to deal with a stolen election, there is so much PROVEN fraud, even the SC won’t be able to ignore it this time. If they do, and we accept it docilly, as AS says below, we deserve what we get.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

Again, I don’t know why you think that everyone is going to accept it docilly. We haven’t exhausted all avenues of remedy.

However, I do believe there will be a Great Reset/New World Order/whatever you want to call it. I don’t know when (been expecting it since the 1970s) but it WILL happen. And the reason I know it will be is because the Bible says so. I don’t know of a thing that the Bible says we can do to stop it nor am I aware of anything that says America will be exempt from it. This was set in motion ages ago. I know not everyone here believes the same as I do about the end times, and that’s ok.

We aren’t to the point of mass arrests ‘yet’, but if we are fine with how things are going now and are just going to let it go, I don’t see anyone fighting back once the camps start being populated. Anything we can do now is surely easier than anytime later.

I don’t see much fighting *now*. In fact, on this very thread when I asked if we were contacting our Congressperson about a particular subject, I was told ‘they don’t listen so what’s the point?’. That’s the exact attitude they hope for. I can’t do anything about the fraud, but I CAN contact my Congressperson, I CAN attend school board meetings, I CAN attend county commission meetings, I CAN donate to good candidates, I CAN post things on Facebook and Twitter that are positive about this country, a candidate or the evils of socialism.

Remember Scott Presler and how we fell in love with him during the election, going around the country getting people registered to vote? Well guess what-he hasn’t given up. And he’s probably in the cross-hairs of the government because he was one of the chief organizers of 1/6; it wasn’t just about the President’s speech that day. He goes speak wherever he gets invited to register people to vote and explain how THEY can run for office, sleeping on people’s couches or in their spare bedroom. Anybody donating to him? Anybody inviting him to their town?

Don’t doubt we are being monitored and the left is cheering that it seems most here are fine with a stolen election and fascism our new way of life. They are gauging what they are going to do based this. And nobody can complain about the spineless GOPe any more.

I don’t recall saying I don’t think we’re being monitored; not sure where you got that? And again, I don’t know where you got that most here are fine with a stolen election. Just because we didn’t believe that Biden *wasn’t* flying on Air Force One; or Biden *wasn’t* recognized by the military as the Commander in Chief because the Marines didn’t salute him; or Biden *wasn’t* allowed in the White House and was actually in Georgia, ad nauseum? I’m glad that crap is gone.

5,448 posted on 07/16/2021 7:19:57 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (Idiots are of two kinds: those who try to be smart and those who think they are smart.)
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To: Spirit of Liberty; CottonBall

very good post! So many here are posting great opinions, we all want the same things, just different opinions on how to go about it. I am being mostly quiet as I’m still observing. And posting here doesn’t really accomplish anything.


5,469 posted on 07/16/2021 8:13:24 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Spirit of Liberty

” can’t do anything about the fraud, but I CAN contact my Congressperson, I CAN attend school board meetings, I CAN attend county commission meetings, I CAN donate to good candidates, I CAN post things on Facebook and Twitter that are positive about this country, a candidate or the evils of socialism.”

Very good points!

I guess what I’m thinking is that we are either able to turn this ship around or we are heading into the end times. So I am really focusing on the former.

I know the end times are coming but I never wanted to be one of the generation that experienced it. So I’m hoping it’s not here yet


5,478 posted on 07/16/2021 8:27:56 PM PDT by CottonBall (When people fear government, there is TYRANNY. When government fears people, there is LIBERTY. T Je)
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