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To: Enlightened1

This is sad many levels.

Kids deserve better. Nobody wants to be accountable.
Children of all backgrounds are little sponges. Educating them isn’t hard, but it IS work and there must be consistency.

Throwing money at the problem won’t help. Most of our founders were home schooled up until college. Books and a chalkboard... pretty basic but effective when applied properly.

Fell bad for the kids.


15 posted on 06/16/2021 7:48:59 AM PDT by Enlightened1 ( )
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To: Enlightened1
Fell bad for the kids.

Well, after we patch you up from your "fell", let me tell you something as a retired NYC public schools educator. The first kids to act out in class were almost always black kids. The kids most often disrupting the class were black kids. There were herds, not one or two, of black kids walking the halls during class instead of helping themselves to an education. While walking the halls, said kids would vandalize work by more studious students which had been hung in the hall. They would peer into door windows of classrooms and distract other students. They would do stuff like throw those huge pedestal fans down stairs (I was almost hit by one once, which could have very seriously injured me), make out with silly giggling girls in stairwells, smoke in stairwells, and anything else you can think of. Homework? What's that? Assigned class projects? Huh? They didn't even bother with "the dog ate their homework". On parent-teacher nights, there were far fewer black parents attending. If the student did have someone come to talk about their progress, it was more often a grandmother, an aunt, even a sibling. Half the time, the parent didn't even know if their kid was IN school, let alone how they were doing. They didn't know that report cards had just been handed out. They hadn't responded to letters home about misbehaviors or truancy.

Toward the end, I heard excuses like, "You white. I don't have to listen to you!" I had enough years to retire. The anti-white culture was already taking root under DumblASSio. It was time to get off that mad merry-go-round and wash my hands of that mess.

I am sure that there are responsible black parents who genuinely care about their kids and what they learn in school, and that they DO learn. I met more than a few of them along the way. But unfortunately, they were in the very clear minority.

Even if their primary advocates do not stand up for them, substituting indoctrination for education is a heinous betrayal of the sacred role educators are supposed to play in our society.

39 posted on 06/16/2021 8:38:12 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Enlightened1

This is sad many levels.
Kids deserve better. Nobody wants to be accountable.


I agree. There is no good reason that these children cannot learn, but the obstacles facing them are overwhelming.

Many of the teachers and administrators in the urban public schools are functionally illiterate themselves. I believe NY had to abandon competency testing for teachers because of the high failure rate. In addition, far too many see teaching as just a means to a steady life-long paycheck rather than as a calling. They form unions whose sole function is to guarantee that paycheck—and I say that as a retired teacher.

Too many children are raised by parents who have never exhibited self-control in their lives and pass that lack to their offspring. Many, but certainly not all of the black kids I’ve taught have absolutely no self-control. “We ghetto!”, they loudly (always loudly, it seems a trait) proclaim. And these are the ones who exert peer pressure on the kids who do know how to behave, not the other way round.

Because the problems in schools predominately appear to come from black kids, schools are accused of racism when they attempt to discipline the malefactors. Administrators then let their schools slide into chaos where no one, except the morally strongest and high motivated can learn. This is the easy way out. “It’s society’s racism, not us” both the schools and the failing kids can say.

Also, urban schools’ primary function has become to “keep the kids off of the streets” for 7 hours a day, because we all know what they’d be up to if they weren’t in ‘school’ or as one black elected official put it ‘mandatory recreation centers’. Because of this, expelling or suspending disruptive students isn’t allowed.

We should care because these kids and their parents are our countrymen (whether we like it or not) and deserve an education that gives them a chance at success in their lives. I have no idea on how to fix this problem short of tearing down the current system and building a new one from the ground up—which of course is politically impossible.

I realize the parents complaining are likely quite poor themselves and don’t have the means to do this themselves.


41 posted on 06/16/2021 8:42:00 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Enlightened1
Most of our founders were home schooled up until college. Books and a chalkboard... pretty basic but effective when applied properly.

Education is NOT about money. In fact, the more we spend, the worse most schools become.

My neighbors have home-schooled their 3 children - while mom was also holding a part-time job. They formed study groups with other like-minded parents to share the burden. The public school educrats would have called them "deprived." the kids are super-high achievers. the youngest just graduated from MIT with a degree in computer science.

44 posted on 06/16/2021 9:23:03 AM PDT by PGR88
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